Originally Posted by minitube
Have you Endrick or cb ever read page thirteen intro and diagram one script of Al Buhr's book on two handed casting? This is for me the single most important piece of writing I have come across on double-handed casting forward stroke fundamentals ever, and I have said so on my site.
Originally Posted by minitube
Al Buhr, page 13 diagram 1,
Buhr 13:1 - see the light.
Yes, I have read it and have it here in front of me. It really, truly is an excellent book. But Mr Buhr also gives very mixed messages about his energetic fulcrum. And the illustrated diagram 13:1 is simply odd! – and the very next page in his book - where he shows a photographic sequence of casts - shows why.
Let’s examine a bit further – using our eyes not our hearts.
Fig 1. (copy of 13:1)
This is a tracing of the hand positions (and rod in between) – taken from Mr Buhr’s fig 13:1. (I haven’t shown the actual drawing for copyright reasons) but can assure you of the accuracy of the tracing. This is how Mr Buhr says the forward cast should be – with the top hand a “dynamic or driving pivot point” (his words).
You can see that according to this diagram the bottom hand never goes behind where it started during the forward cast. Now take a look at the videos again and the sequence below. Do they follow this pattern? No – only the big body/arm movements shown by the tournament caster come close to this.
Fig 2. These are tracings of the hand positions (and rod in between) taken from Mr Buhr’s photos of his forward cast on the next page. (it isn’t perfectly side on so not as clear as it might be.
Fig 3. A similar tracing of the excellent pro caster Mark Roberts - taken from video - Green = starting position - blue middle - red stop.
Fig 4. A similar tracing of the excellent pro caster Robert Gillespie
Fig 5. A similar tracing of the excellent tournament caster Gordon Armstrong
Fig 6. A similar tracing from the excellent pro caster Goran Andersson
The remarkable similarity is profound. And the beautiful symmetry of movement is clear for all too see. They bear little resemblance to fig 13:1 of Mr Buhr. But strangely they do look more like his fig 13.4!
In all cases,
The top and bottom hands start to move at exactly the same time.
They stop moving at exactly the same time.
They cross over at the vertical.
They move in opposite directions.
They rotate the rod at almost precisely 90 degrees. (1.30pm to 10.30pm)
They move very similar distances.
So if they are moving very similar distances – starting at stopping at the same time and crossing over – what does this tell us?
Mr Buhr – actually goes on to state something quite telling on Page 43. In his section called, Quickening the cast – “The top wrist snaps the thumb forward as the lower wrist snaps the lower palm forward, creating two opposing forces that attempt to break the rod handle in half.”
Now where would the rod snap? - At the top hand or somewhere between the two?
Anyway, you may not be convinced but it has certainly illustrated just how precise these top casters are at stopping and starting the rod rotation at exactly the correct moment! If we can learn anything from this - it is that!
(PS. I'm really surprised how much the top hand drops. Keeping it rising or at least on a horizontal plane certainly helps keep tight loops in single handed casting and I try and keep it so myself in spey casting - well at least I thought I did - will have to take video and do some tracings!).