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Old 16-09-2013, 08:18 AM
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I have to say the way i see fish treated at some of my local waters is really bad . It amazes me some people buy the best kit the all the gear no idea brigade and treat the fish they catch with total contempt .
Agree with jim catch and release shouldnt be allowed with bait so the fishery has to shoulder some of the blame .

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I have to say the way i see fish treated at some of my local waters is really bad . It amazes me some people buy the best kit the all the gear no idea brigade and treat the fish they catch with total contempt .
Agree with jim catch and release shouldnt be allowed with bait so the fishery has to shoulder some of the blame .

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True, now I'm Only a teenager i was at my first visit to A Rainbow Trout Fishery You catch 2 fish bring them home and then C&R Well i Went off Then as i noticed there was people throwing the poor fish And took a long time to get the hook out of the Fish then i walked around the lake and saw about 30 Fish Dead Best around 10 Lb... Such a Waste.....
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Old 16-09-2013, 04:40 PM
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Again I will say it, you cannot say that anyone who bait fishes has no fish handling skills and don't care about the fish, total fly fishing snobbery!

What about the fly fishermen (some top competition guys) that rip flies out and throw the fish back, deep hook fish using boobies and either cut the line and throw back or rip the fly out and throw back, what about the ones who catch a 2lb fish then catch a 3lb fish so throw the 2lb fish back in ? What about the guys that catch their limit, get weighed in for those precious points then throw the fish in the bin ?

Are these morons any better than the bait guys ?? Of course they are because they are fly fishermen

And if anyone comes on here and says it doesn't happen you must fish blindfolded, take a walk round any fishery after a competition!

It's not the method, its the person! And these competition fishers, competition organisers and fishery owners need to take a long hard look at themselves.

Fly fishing snobbery! Disgusting
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Ah now that strikes a chord with me pentlandflyman. Have witnessed and been told by several other anglers of a top comp. member treating fish with little or no respect. They were dispatched quickly but I don't know if this makes the way they were dragged up the bank acceptable.
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Ah now that strikes a chord with me pentlandflyman. Have witnessed and been told by several other anglers of a top comp. member treating fish with little or no respect. They were dispatched quickly but I don't know if this makes the way they were dragged up the bank acceptable.
Of course its acceptable mate, we fly fisherman do no wrong! and the competition guys think they walk on water, and! They get away with it because the fishery owners are scared to say anything because they cannot afford to lose any business.

Just remember! its only those scumbag bait guys that treat fish badly
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Of course its acceptable mate, we fly fisherman do no wrong! and the competition guys think they walk on water, and! They get away with it because the fishery owners are scared to say anything because they cannot afford to lose any business.

Just remember! its only those scumbag bait guys that treat fish badly
Im not really sure about your point no one has said fly fishermen are better or worse than bait anglers . The simple fact is that trout caught on bait tend to be far deeper hooked than on a fly i base this statement on my own experience of 40 years of fishing 30 of which spent bait fishing and 10 years fly experience . You do have a good point reguarding certain competition anglers though this is not just true of fly conpetition anglers but with other disciplins coarse and sea . Some members of the competition scene do see themselves as elite which is total noncense

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Old 16-09-2013, 07:12 PM
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Can someone describe the best way to release a fish?
Seems like a silly question, but I have never actually been told!
My common sense tells me to handle the fish as little as possible, try and keep it in the water and make sure you have your forceps & disgourger close at hand and not in the car/bag 50 yards away.
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Video Tip: How to Catch and Release a Trout Correctly | Orvis News

Great video same principles apply to stillwaters, barbless hooks are a must for c&r IMO
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STFA guidelines for Catch and Release - Stillwater Trout Fisheries' Association

Another good page that explains it for stillwaters
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Old 16-09-2013, 09:21 PM
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[...]they had no priest so his young son ran off and found a big bit of pipe and his father watched as the young boy bashed it to death [...]
Was it reasonably quick with the pipe? Because if it was over in 30sec with 4 or 5 blows it was probably "humane enough". I am confident that fish_don't_feel_pain so for me manner of death isn't as important as careless wastage and disrespect of of a valued resource. That betrays an awful attitude to the species, habitats and environment that give us our sport.

I do prefer to see a quick stunning with a priest and the fish bled, but the big thing for me is if it goes back you treat it well and put it back unstressed and healthy. Bad C&R annoys me more than poor killing which I think is often more a matter of delicacy than cruelty/barbarity.
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