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Old 01-12-2016, 05:11 PM
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Default Grayling from Winter rivers

As we are in the month of December its time for a new river thread , thanks for all who have posted or even viewed the last ones .

To get things started I had a very good day out on my local river , river was fining down in the lower reaches .

A warmer day than the last week or so , only noticed 1 rise all day , my set up was a Hends GPX 10 foot 3 weight , leader 20 foot of Seaguar Fluorocarbon in a diameter of 0.28 , tippet 7 foot of Fluorocarbon ,0.14 diameter , flies used today Red Tag Hares Ears on the point and a Hares Ear tied on a grub hook with a flashy rib .

First few pools were fantastic , grayling seemed in the mood , nothing fancy just dead drifting and leading the flies , I stayed around half a hour in the best pools and pleased to say most pools produced fish .

Smaller glides were fished in shorter time spans , grayling seemed further back and in the tail and middle parts of the water , in the end I am not concentrating on the heads of the pools ,unless I see a feature that might get my attention .

I fished right into the dark , luckily I was right next to the road as I fished a side stream later on in the afternoon .

Overall its been a very good week , 5 days fishing and 2 days resting up , pleased to report I had plenty of grayling , ranging from a few fingerlings , 2 ,3 4 and some 5 year old grayling class .

If your new to Winter grayling fishing don't be shy in asking a few questions as some regular posters will steer you in the right direction , look forward to reading some of the posts as the thread starts to develop .
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Nice to see your still fishing and posting reports Danny. I've been out twice this week's after a month off from fishing. On wed had two hours on my local river and after two grayling in the first 3 drifts struggled to find them. Ended with 8 small grayling and no trout which is a few less then I had hoped. Yesterday I went to the Dee and struggled. A new leader didn't help, couldn't see it and kept wrapping around the end of the rod, really hoping the fishon ones are back in stock soon. Had a mixture of trout and grayling but I never really found them. To make matters worse I stupidly followed my sat nav re-routing and spent as long driving home as I did fishing.
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Old 02-12-2016, 03:15 PM
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After fishing hard yesterday I fancied a more laid back kind of a day , I ventured onto a stretch of river that is very shallow but does hold lots of grayling , the first spot gets a lot of bait anglers on , lovely pool that as not been the best of swims over the years , gave it a go and ended up with half a dozen grayling ,had another few out of some skinny shallow water .

The river is nearly back to normal levels and is very clear by now , tactics to cast well upstream and hold all the leader off the water , sort of fan cast and dissect the water up so I am not standing in water that may hold fish ,plan is to catch them at distance from all kinds of angles .

Well the method paid off and I must have had a dozen grayling , the banker pools have changed so much , failed in one and had a few from another , the last pool I could not catch grayling on the dead drift so I had another 4 by inducing the take .

The time was 12.15 and I was in two minds to call it a day as it was only was a short session , as I was making my way out of the river I noticed a rise .

I knew I had not taken my dry fly kit with me , I never even had a floating fly line .

Luckily I found 1 dry fly in a hook box that I keep a few nymphs in ,it was a size 16 Parachute dry fly .

Took the nymphs off and tied 3and a half foot of nylon on to the fly , it was a long shot as I only had a 20 foot Fluorocarbon leader , I even left the Hanak Drops indicator on .

The pool was around 8 to 12 inches deep , not fast but with a bit of pace to it with some slower water towards the far bank .

Having done a bit of Tenkara fishing I thought to myself if I can hold all the leader and tippet when possible off the water I might be in with a chance .

Not long after a grayling took the fly , and a few more afterwards to , no grease with me so just false cast and dried the fly on my jumper , the fly was a good floater to be honest .

I managed 9 from that pool ,plus a few more from another likely spot , most grayling came from prospecting the water . As it was shallow the grayling did not need to travel far to intercept the dry fly .

I was over the moon and glad I did my best with what resources I had ,plus a bit of intuition , so I managed plenty on the nymphs and a dozen on the dry flies .

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An interesting and informative post yet again Danny. It sounds like you had a great day on the river. I need to get out and post myself. Keep them coming
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Nice to see your still fishing and posting reports Danny. I've been out twice this week's after a month off from fishing. On wed had two hours on my local river and after two grayling in the first 3 drifts struggled to find them. Ended with 8 small grayling and no trout which is a few less then I had hoped. Yesterday I went to the Dee and struggled. A new leader didn't help, couldn't see it and kept wrapping around the end of the rod, really hoping the fishon ones are back in stock soon. Had a mixture of trout and grayling but I never really found them. To make matters worse I stupidly followed my sat nav re-routing and spent as long driving home as I did fishing.
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I had a similar hard day on the Dee on Monday up river from Llandderfel bridge, I also relied on my sat nav on the way home and ended up going down a really narrow B road for about 7 miles, I should have just gone back the way I went

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I was out last Sunday for the first time this winter. I tend to alternate between Czech nymphing and trotting on our wee bit water. It's not prolific - getting into double figures by either method is a good day by all accounts. However, the average size is good - a decent proportion are 2 lb plus, with the magical 3 lb mark being nudged on occasions.

It was a last minute decision to get my arse in gear and go down, so I didn't have any maggots and went with the bugging kit. My ageing bad knee objects to me doing this sort of thing nowadays - climbing into rivers, and climbing out of them - more and more each winter, and this time it was 2 days later before it forgave me for doing it. I'm suspecting it might not be long before it's trotting or nothing... or I go to the doktaz and ask about a replacement knee.

Last few years, I have homed-in on a method to use on our wee river. There is no point in the 'fine and far off' approach because 'far off' would put it in the vegetation on the far bank. Also, my limited casting abilities have never adapted to French leader. So, I use an 11 ft 3-weight rod, with a 2-weight fly line, of which I have about 6 foot outside the tip ring. On this, I have a 5 ft length of heavy nylon, and on the end of that, I have one of my home-made 'coral snakes', which gives me my sighter.

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Attached to that is my 3-fly leader: 4 ft to the top dropper, 2 ft 6 in to the middle and 3 ft to the tail. For the past few years, I have homed-in on a winning team that I now seldom deviate from.

Top dropper: olive shrimp, lightly-weighted underbody
Middle dropper: pink shrimp, variable weight
Tail: Goldhead hare's ear shrimp

Depending on the depth and flow of the pool, I change the middle, between a lightly-weighted fly and a bead-head.

I'm left-handed and mostly fish the right bank, so my casting tends to consist of a back-handed 'spring', using the grip of the water on the leader/flies to load the rod for me. It's very hit-miss, when you don't do it regularly, and many of the casts land in a heap. However, I find that is no bad thing. The heaped landings are often the ones that produce the fish, as it all seems to sink down, straighten out and swing round in an attractive way for them.

I find conversion rate is very iffy with this method. A lot of the takes come when everything is coming down, under your nose, under your rod tip, and when you contact the fish there is nowhere to go to set the hook... and you are on an 11 ft 3-weight - not exactly a broom handle. However, I had a good percentage rate on Sunday morning, with about 10 schoolies and a couple of lumps, both a good 2 lb 8 oz or so, with only a couple of on-offs for the session.

The weather looks set to continue fair. I just need to persuade my right knee to give it another go...

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Old 02-12-2016, 07:42 PM
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Nice going there Colin , hope your knee recovers , I had my ligaments operated on in 1994 , still doing fine . As a last resort I did take Naproxem tablets , the odd one will keep the pain at bay .

What flies were you catching on , the Buggy Hares Ear type or the UV Pink Shrimps you once posted up .
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What flies were you catching on , the Buggy Hares Ear type or the UV Pink Shrimps you once posted up .
I must have had half of them on the top dropper - the one on the right here...

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There were olives hatching and I saw a couple or rises, so they didn't have their noses stuck to the deck.

Only had one on the pink in the middle, though it was one of the 2 lb 8 oz lumps...

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The rest were on Mr Dependable on the tail...

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Default Re: Grayling from Winter rivers

Similar down here , Pink is not the rage this year , like so ,good old Hares Ears doing well at the moment .
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Another day out on the river , fished a semi urban area today , started off in a weir pool and managed 6 grayling , onto the next pool which is a really good spot on its day , fished a dry first and saw a grayling swoop on the fly , high light of the day

Next I fished drab nymphs and caught lots of grayling , fished a dry again a smaller 22 Parachute and caught 2 more grayling , went through the pool again with 2 Pink Shrimps , managed a few more .

A pattern seems to be developing as grayling are thin on the ground downstream , just the odd ones here and there , I also caught 3 Rainbow trout , 2 were wild fish the other one that as escaped .

Had a few fish in really slow moving water , had nothing in the slightly faster water ,no surprise as grayling will look for deeper water .

Next few pools were devoid of grayling , did not waste my time , the last pool is very long and deep in the middle ,nothing in the faster riffles , all the fish came from the deepest slow moving water , a tad boring stood in 4 foot of water ,but none the less happy to track them down and catch a few .

I ended up having plenty of grayling on the nymphs , 3 grayling on the dry flies and 3 Rainbow trout , good to be out again once more .
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