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    Default Boat seat arrangements...

    For over 20 years I've stuck with a standard issue Bob Church extending seat - the one that sits atop the gunwales. Meanwhile, over the last 10 years, my right knee has been giving me more and more gyp - and never more so than during a day afloat. It was becoming a real pest - spoiling my enjoyment, trying to get it into a position that wasn't causing pain.

    The only days afloat where it didn't bother me at all were when I fished from the Merkister Hotel boats on Orkney. They are fitted with a bucket seat on a pedestal...



    Any time I was out on Loch Harray, my knee would be fine. I concluded it had to be something to do with the bucket seat and being related to posture, and being able to lean back and swivel and all that. I decided to try a bucket seat on a swivel. They are both available on eBay...

    Bucket seat: 25

    Swivel plate: 9.30

    I had a swivel plate on an old seat I used to use many years ago, attached to a thwart clamp...



    I bought one of the bucket seats and took the swivel plate off the old seat and with thanks to Wee Jimmy for a piece of aluminium plate, I rigged up the bucket seat on the Bob Church...


    This arrangement proved to be fine on some boats, but just a bit too high when slung across the gunwales on others...


    My wee legs were left dangling in mid air!

    The answer was to bring it inside the boat and run it lengthways...



    That arrangement was our set-up for our week on South Uist this year and it was a revelation. No more trouble with the bad knee!

    However, I wasn't out the woods yet. Note the difference in the design of the 2 Sweeney boats above. The top one is designed to allow a wheelcair to be put in the boat, but as a result the stretch from the stern to the middle thwart is really dodgy. Nineteen of the 32 boats on Menteith, for example, are the open 'horseshoe' type design. The horseshoe seat in the top photo gives just enough space if you could fit a board inside the gunwales, sitting close to the edge, maybe just lifted up a few inches....

    I bit the bullet and bought a second bucket seat to increase my options. First job for the second team was to get a bit plank - strong enough to take a fat bastard. B&Q - oak board. Jeezo - drilling and sawing oak - it isn't called hard wood without good reason! Couple of bits of 3x3 fence post for the chocks. I measured it up against a Menteith boat last time we were there and cut it to get the angles just right. I added a couple of off-cuts of old rubber car mats to add a bit of cushioning/anti-slip to it.

    Next issue...

    The clamp type attachment that I had is notorious for not getting a good enough grip of a board. When you lean to the side, the clamp lifts up and you take a spill off the side of the seat. That is why so many seats are sold with ratchet straps instead. However, while they are advertised with the claim ""Will clamp to all boats"" the truth is that they won't. Look at the photo above. How would you fit the bow seat with ratchet straps?

    If my new seat was to be universal, I would need to be able to fit it to bow thwarts with buoyancy tanks under them. Straps were not an option. But how to get a better general grip when on an open thwart or on my oak board?

    I came up with this idea...

    Two open turnbuckles...


    ... connected to 4 shackles.

    Hook them up and tighten the turnbuckles to pinch the clamps so they don't loosen their grip if you lean to the side a bit too much...






    After rigging it up, and sitting on it, and leaning left and right, it seemed pretty good, so fingers crossed...

    Anyone else been doing some customisation on the boat seat front?

    Col
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    Necessity is the mother of invention Cap'n.
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    I don't fish from a boat so I can't pretend to understand the necessity for such a project - but I like it. Slap a bit of creosote on the oak though.

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    instead of using the clamps , try using ratchet straps - absolutely no slipping .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattybhoy View Post
    instead of using the clamps , try using ratchet straps - absolutely no slipping .
    As I said above...

    The clamp type attachment that I had is notorious for not getting a good enough grip of a board. When you lean to the side, the clamp lifts up and you take a spill off the side of the seat. That is why so many seats are sold with ratchet straps instead. However, while they are advertised with the claim ""Will clamp to all boats"" the truth is that they won't. Look at the photo above (the one with the buoyancy tank under the thwart). How would you fit the bow seat with ratchet straps?

    Col
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    I would be incline to use ratchet strap where you've used the turnbuckles and still keeping the seat clamp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n Fishy View Post
    As I said above...

    The clamp type attachment that I had is notorious for not getting a good enough grip of a board. When you lean to the side, the clamp lifts up and you take a spill off the side of the seat. That is why so many seats are sold with ratchet straps instead. However, while they are advertised with the claim ""Will clamp to all boats"" the truth is that they won't. Look at the photo above (the one with the buoyancy tank under the thwart). How would you fit the bow seat with ratchet straps?

    Col
    all I did on Friday was pass the straps under the buoyancy tank and tighten , worked like a dream . no movement of the seat and able to finish a 6 hr session pain free .

    ps . if you use ratchet straps on a thwart board or bob church style seat at each end it stops them from sliding or tilting making for a safer seating arrangement .

    I agree with you about the Orkney boats , the best by far .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattybhoy View Post
    all I did on Friday was pass the straps under the buoyancy tank and tighten , worked like a dream . no movement of the seat and able to finish a 6 hr session pain free .
    I did consider the ratchet straps - trying to get the most options for the minimum of faffing around, when changing between set-ups, and decided to go with the turnbuckles.

    Col

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly face View Post
    I would be incline to use ratchet strap where you've used the turnbuckles and still keeping the seat clamp.
    Had a think about that - bit tricky as regards the amount of distance you have to work with.... hence I went with the turnbuckles.

    Col
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    Am I missing something here, or just being a dufus, but....
    Col, how do you fit the turnbuckles on the bow seat, through the buoyancy tanks as in the picture you refer to?

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    bert

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