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    Hi all.....I seem to have developed bad technique over the years.I have begun to break this down and am following the great advice giving here and applying it to my own faults (I seem to have them all ).I will most likely be become a nuisance in the coming weeks .
    Now as I say I do have to go back to the start so lets sat I have line out have the rod tip pointing at the water everything is straight and I begin my lift slowly to 10 o clock ,accelerating to 12 and a stop.During this part of the cast I find it hard to stop the rod butt from kicking out from my wrist .Is this due to wrong grip ie holding rod to loose or maybe wrist cock ,how is the wrist supposed to be used in this part of the cast?.Sorry for the seemingly ridiculous queries but I have looked for help from friends and notice they seem to be doing it as badly as me,its a bit like the blind leading the blind,Also there a few lads in here from southern Ireland if anyone can recommend a qualified instructor they have used down this way Id appreciate it....Cheers Corky

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    Hi Ferg,


    Now as I say I do have to go back to the start so lets sat I have line out have the rod tip pointing at the water everything is straight and I begin my lift slowly to 10 o clock ,accelerating to 12 and a stop.During this part of the cast I find it hard to stop the rod butt from kicking out from my wrist
    How are you holding the rod?
    Thumb on top and handle straight across the palm can lead to wrist break. Try placing the rod across the palm diagonally so the butt end of the handle is supported by your little & ring fingers with your forfinger and thumb extended up the front of the handle, but still more thumb on top than V grip, the grip should be LOOSE. When you squeeze the rod with fingers you should be shocking the rod, it should bounce in your hand, there's your stop!! Very difficult to describe in words but very simple to demonstrate.

    Most of the casting stroke should come from lifting and lowering of the elbow and through rotation of the shoulder, if you start with a straightish arm & wrist and use your elbow & shoulder to accelerate the rod whilst keeping a firm wrist you should get a good result, when you reach about 12:30 - 13:00 squeeze the rod and you'll feel it vibrate, once the vibrations subside the line is straight behind you and you should begin the forward cast. If you feel no vibrations you have not relaxed the hand again after the stop.

    If you can get someone to video you and stick it up on youtube it would be easier to help you

    ,Also there a few lads in here from southern Ireland if anyone can recommend a qualified instructor they have used down this way Id appreciate it....
    I sat my CCI test in Waterford and I'd recommend any of the guys qualified by the FFF over in Ireland have a look at their website, you can search for instructors by country and there are a few in Ireland, not sure if there are any as far south as you though but they are worth travelling to.

    Cheers

    Ben

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    Hi Ben ,
    Thanks for the reply.It definetly helped me on a field practice this am.
    I have found that I am holding the rod very high on the handle,dropping my hand back down the handle with little finger close to the reel does help with the butt kicking out.
    My grip also was a bit to tight from the start of lift off,I think this probably made my stop not so sudden as I seemed to be making this stop with the body rather than tightening the wrist.
    I will try and get a video clip up soon.
    something else I need to work on is that as soon as I begin the lift I tend to automatically allow the wrist to wander into a 30/40 deg angle from my forearm.yuch !
    I did take a look into the fff site and will make some calls to find an Instructor.
    I appreciate your taking the time to reply and help me out here Ben ,thanks again ,....Corky

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    have you had a look at the sexyloops site.you might find it usefull.
    jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3lbgrayling
    have you had a look at the sexyloops site.you might find it usefull.


    jim
    Thanks Jim had a look in ,great site there .Just back from an hour in the field and allready find an improvement using the tips I got from Ben .I have left a voicemail with John Woodside ,FFF instructor ,hopefully he can fit me in for a few lessons .there no use in my having good tackle and not being able to get the best from it .....Corky

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    corky you have mail

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    Quote Originally Posted by corky
    Hi all.....I seem to have developed bad technique over the years.I have begun to break this down and am following the great advice giving here and applying it to my own faults (I seem to have them all ).I will most likely be become a nuisance in the coming weeks .
    Now as I say I do have to go back to the start so lets sat I have line out have the rod tip pointing at the water everything is straight and I begin my lift slowly to 10 o clock ,accelerating to 12 and a stop.During this part of the cast I find it hard to stop the rod butt from kicking out from my wrist .Is this due to wrong grip ie holding rod to loose or maybe wrist cock ,how is the wrist supposed to be used in this part of the cast?.Sorry for the seemingly ridiculous queries but I have looked for help from friends and notice they seem to be doing it as badly as me,its a bit like the blind leading the blind,Also there a few lads in here from southern Ireland if anyone can recommend a qualified instructor they have used down this way Id appreciate it....Cheers Corky
    Corky, if you have trouble with your wrist breaking (the rod butt kicking out from your wrist) tuck the rod butt into your sleeve. You should get a little extra support. Alternatively use a bit of velcro tape or similar around rod butt and wrist until you get swing of it..................birdsnest
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    corky - you have a pm
    steve
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    Lads I must say the replies with tips are much appreciated and will be used in practice,also the pms received were fantastic,
    Rookstorm top man thanks for the offer,
    Steve ,hopefully we will meetup around Bandon in the season.
    Top men,.............Corky.

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