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    Default Spey Casting

    Hi, I have just started to learn Spey casting and had a 2 hour lesson from Ally Gowans (of Ally's Shrimp) on the Tummel. However, I am still not quite there. I've read books that say its a mental thing, well maybe it is but I still can't get consistency nor length.

    I have lots of advice in my mind; the D loop, try weight on back foot, use the torso etc, but if there was a single thought whilst practising, what would it be?

    Any suggestions would be appreciated!

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    Get the initial lift right and the rest will follow. Start with a low rod tip and slowly and steadily lift the rod tip to the 10:30 position. Sweep the line back horizontally without dipping the rod tip and just as the leader touches the water just a little upstream of your rod tip, begin the forward cast. Keep practicing it will all come right fairly quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clan Chief
    but if there was a single thought whilst practising, what would it be?

    Any suggestions would be appreciated!
    What is Ian Gordon's telephone number.
    If you want to learn Speycasting go to a former world champion who gillies and fishes the Spey.
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    I just looked at a step by step in T&S, went down the local rugby field with the double hander and flogged the ******* till I got the action right!

    Over exentuate the action of pullimg the line off the water, rolling the shoulder and pushing the line forward. I found the whole action of spey casting very similar to fast bowling in cricket, rolling the shoulders and and pushing through with the the arms. Don't know if this makes any sense, especially to the Scots like Willie who don't play cricket. Sorry.

    J.
    Last edited by Joey1; 11-08-2006 at 11:58 PM.

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    My main thought is "Nice and smooth". If I rush it all falls apart!!!

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    the biggest lesson that i learnt from ian gordon is exactly what graham has put above - if the lift is right everything else follows, and from willie gunn, SLOW DOWN! when its all going wrong its hard to resist the instinct to move faster but actually you have more time than you think. I found the michael evans 2 part speycasting videos helpful when starting out.

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    Thumbs up "W" and "G" have covered the ground nicely..

    I'll just add one thing. (Willie is there an exception??) ALL spey casts have three parts: 1) The lift; 2) the formulation of the cast, including the 'D/V' loop; 3) The forward motion propelling the line forward.

    One of the biggest problems I see with 'newbies' is they don't want to do all three as seperate distinct actions (usually a combo of 1 and 2 - I call it a one and a half - which doesn't LIFT the line off the water, it DRAGS it through. End result is a misplaced anchor/pick (normally too far down stream) and then (probably) trying to cast over the line rather than the connection between line and leader due to the poor anchor placement.

    That little trick gives you the "Bloody L." Or think of trying to drag a bucket out of the water with your 2-hander. Most of your rod loading is spent just trying to get the line off the water rather than the forward cast.

    When Willie was over here with me last year he DRILLED that one into my thick skull. As he was instructing me in the use of full sink spey lines it was Lesson One. Until you got that part down, there was NO point going on to Lesson Two. (And he was right!, Right!!, RIGHT!!!)

    Fred
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    I am just a beginner, and I should not presume to offer advice, but I have found that it is a mistake to make even the slightest pause between the upstream sweep and the forward cast. Treat it as a single flowing movement...... and keep a firm grip on the butt with the lower hand throughout the cast.

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    I recently had a look at the book Spey Casting by Simon Gawesworth. Whilst I am not a spey caster, I thought this book would be usefull if I wanted to be. Any of you seen it?
    rusty

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    Default You betcha Rusty.

    Quote Originally Posted by rusty
    I recently had a look at the book Spey Casting by Simon Gawesworth. Whilst I am not a spey caster, I thought this book would be usefull if I wanted to be. Any of you seen it?
    rusty

    Excellent book on the 'how to' of spey casting. Simon also has (via RIO line company) an excellent 4 CD disk set (4 hours long) on spey casting. Not sure if it's our in UK format (your equipment is different from ours), but worth every penny.

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