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    Default Single-handed Spey casting

    Anyone know of any worthwhile online sources of info regarding technique for Spey casting with a single-handed rod?

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    I would be interested in this as well. Sounds interesting

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    Lee's site has some excellent footage:

    http://www.stsflyfishing.com/

    Paul's site is quite comprehnsive:

    http://www.sexyloops.com/flycasting/tspey.shtml

    Couple of hours worth on those two.

    Ta, Lee.

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    Default Good sites Lee.

    Teaching folks how to 'spey cast' with a one handed rod has been my 'passion' for years. Beat on PNW based casting instructors for years to teach "the basics" to their students.

    Point being is there are many times you don't have room for a 'standard back cast' with a single hander, but the rod will do all the basic spey casts ... it doesn't know, nor does it care. Some casts can be a bit hard on the arm (snake roll as an example with zero grip below the reel seat), but most are just a flip of the rod tip.

    Fortuanately my 'bleatings' have been pick up/heard by enough instructors that it's part of the basic lesson plan.

    fae

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    I find it's that bit harder forming and anchoring the D-loop with a single-handed rod. There's probably, as Fred notes above, no reason why this should be so.
    Last edited by AidenSmith; 02-04-2009 at 05:50 PM.

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    Modern DHer lines are designed to be spey cast. Most singlehander lines arn't designed solely for that purpose. Line choice can make a big difference to the way a singlehanded rod speys.

    Ta, Lee.

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    Good point totsy....


    The Sewincaster range of #8 WF lines probably suit these casts better than any.

    Simon Gawesworth's book Spey Casting has a detailed chapter on single hand 'turbo' Spey casts.

    ps. Simon sometimes posts here when Fred asks him to.

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    Thumbs up That's because he's a good Buddie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunn's Particular View Post
    Good point totsy....


    The Sewincaster range of #8 WF lines probably suit these casts better than any.

    Simon Gawesworth's book Spey Casting has a detailed chapter on single hand 'turbo' Spey casts.

    ps. Simon sometimes posts here when Fred asks him to.
    Simon is one of the most delightful fellows I've ever been privileged to meet.

    What 'solidified' () our friendship was when I pulled out a bottle of 'what's/where did you get that?????!!!!!:.' Single Malt way back in the day, at a early Sandy River Spey 'Clave. Turns out he met his wife at the distillery (last I heard her Father still lives on the property) and the 'rest is history.'

    Bye the bye, with the rest of the fellows there the bottle didn't last 20 minutes ... and my last one of the case I'd purchased. If I'd only known, if only .........

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    totsy, what line would you recommend for a 10' #8 single-handed rod that would be used to both overhead and Spey cast (equal amounts)?
    I put this question to the local fishing shop and the (collective) response was that it would make no difference whether it was a standard WF8F or a Spey line.

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    It will certainly make a difference. Most spey lines are designed to place the majority of the wt in the D loop that you form on the backcast of a spey cast. The wt needs to be at the top half to the D for best results (closest to rod tip). It has been quoted that a D loop only holds approx 65% of the heads wt when formed. If a lot of that wt is towards the tip (your anchor) like a rio rio grande line for example, you are already making it hard for yourself.

    A good spey line does have to compromise when overhead casting. More wt towards the back of the head leaves less wt towards the tip, threrefore turn over can suffer into the wind for example.

    If you keep that in the back of your mind, think of the well known line tapers. A Wulff triangle taper would fit in with the above wt possitioning. So would an airflo 40+, Loop opti and multi range. Appart from the 40+ all the above lines are designed to spey and overhead with a single hander. The 40+ is a great spey casting line designed to 'achieve overhead distance' as I think the adds say, they are what i use with a 12ft switch rod.

    I had a cast with wulff nymph taper a few weeks ago. The best single hand spey line i have cast. It made everythink so simple and neet. I didn't bother overhead with it. There was no need, it speyed that good. Very bold front taper, would turn over a small dog. May be a bit strong for overhead fishing.

    Have a look on the aapgai website below. Go to articles and read Illtyds forward spey write up.

    Hope that helps.

    Ta, Lee.

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