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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Your best bet is to find a qualified instructor near you. It is difficult to convey thoughts in writing and the good instructors will show you the basics and by looking at your casting they will find the fault(s) and point out how to correct the issue(s). Trying to get this on your own takes an awful long time without knowing what you are doing correct or incorrect.

    If it weren't for the wonderful instructors I have met on this forum, I will still be struggling on.

    Orvis' Pete Kutzer's videos are worth watching and I also suggest you have a look at Bill Gammel's 5 Essentials.

    Good luck and stick with it.

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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Joan Wulff’s Dynamics of Fly Casting is an old, yet fantastic ‘how to guide’. See if you can find this on DVD - it will help, a lot.
    "Time is a stream I go fishing in."

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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    I reckon these are one of the most comprehensive sets of casting vids-
    The Board • View forum - Video Masterclass
    Work your way through the essential section and take a look at the Five Essentials vid in the intermediate section.

    But...as everyone has said.... a couple of hours with an instructor is the best option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominikk85 View Post

    What can I do better?
    You are using the full extension of your arm/stroke, I'd want to see you bend at the elbow and articulate your arm to get the same length of cast with less energy and movement, saving the full extension with longer pauses to lengthen the cast, basically getting more out of less, float it rather than force it as it were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohanzee View Post
    You are using the full extension of your arm/stroke, I'd want to see you bend at the elbow and articulate your arm to get the same length of cast with less energy and movement, saving the full extension with longer pauses to lengthen the cast, basically getting more out of less, float it rather than force it as it were.
    Add in proper stops on both back and forward cast.

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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    I made another video and tried to stop earlier, keep the body more quiet and don't extend the arm as much.

    Is that better? Seems the back swing is a little better but forward stop too late?
    Last edited by Dominikk85; 13-03-2018 at 02:21 PM.

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    Much better, but you are still rotating about your shoulder and hips, rather than keeping the rod tracking in a straight line.
    You are using your body rotation to cast the rod rather than your arm.
    You are using an open stance which is fine when you know how to control your cast but to learn the basics you would be better using a closed stance, left foot slightly ahead of your right. This will prevent a lot of the rotating and in effect force you to track the rod in a straighter line with your arm movements alone. Remember, elbow at 90 degrees, extending on the forward delivery and follow through. Try also to make your stops more definite, this will help tighten the loop by transferring the energy to the line rather than to the air. I don't know what outfit you are using and this can have an effect on what we are seeing, in that a middle action rod will cast slightly differently to a tip orientated rod.
    Hope that makes sense.

    PS remember the hammer?, I'm sure you wouldn't swing a hammer to drive a nail like that.
    Last edited by bumble54; 13-03-2018 at 04:32 PM.

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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Thanks. I will try the closed stance. I'm used to turning because I play baseball and did some discus throwing but I can see how this doesn't work with a fly line as it needs to go straight.


    Should the motion be more with a fixed elbow angle from the shoulder (like that butterfly machine bodybuilders do) or more like a dart Throw with just bending and extending the forearm? Or both (like a bench press)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominikk85 View Post
    Thanks. I will try the closed stance. I'm used to turning because I play baseball and did some discus throwing but I can see how this doesn't work with a fly line as it needs to go straight.


    Should the motion be more with a fixed elbow angle from the shoulder (like that butterfly machine bodybuilders do) or more like a dart Throw with just bending and extending the forearm? Or both (like a bench press)?
    Yes, more darts, less javelin.

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    This video explains what you are doing and what you should be doing. I would also add that get your basic overhead sorted then learn to double haul.
    Last edited by fishing hobo; 13-03-2018 at 07:20 PM.

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