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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominikk85 View Post
    Thanks. I will try the closed stance. I'm used to turning because I play baseball and did some discus throwing but I can see how this doesn't work with a fly line as it needs to go straight.


    Should the motion be more with a fixed elbow angle from the shoulder (like that butterfly machine bodybuilders do) or more like a dart Throw with just bending and extending the forearm? Or both (like a bench press)?
    I can't see the second vid, I'd say 'fixed elbow' is not technically correct, the elbow should be free to rise and fall, your hand will naturally come to a stop about eye level..pause..and then pull down, this is a short stroke, for more line the stroke will lengthen, I don't think about stops, I find it more logical to 'direct' the line to where you want it to go..the stop makes itself this way, one less thing to think about.

    The vid worked, arm is still a bit straight, not bending/articulating as much as it can, try this..cast with the minimum movement/energy you can without the loop collapsing..then half it..
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    Next try. This time closed stance and Tried to shorten stroke



    What do you think?

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    Much, much better, still casting with your arm to the side and rotating the shoulders but certainly getting there.
    By keeping your arm tracking in a straight line, rather than to the side, you will achieve the same result with less effort.
    Rod position and stops are good but a more positive tap/ flick on the forward cast will keep the line loop tight and improve accuracy, dart throw remember?. Your hand should be somewhere near level with your ear at the end of the back cast.
    I'm not saying your elbow should stay rigidly at 90 degrees but, try this, keep your upper arm fixed to your side and hinge only from your elbow, you will see how awkward and restrictive that is, but if you allow your elbow and shoulder to work in unison without allowing the elbow to close the 90 degree angle you will see how easy it is.
    You will be surprised at how little effort is required to send the line out.
    Imagine a point in front of you and a corresponding point behind, imagine a line joining those two points, your arm and rod and line will follow that line when you get it right.
    Once you get used to casting, you can go back to a slightly open stance and watch the line unfurl behind you and try to control the loop better, if you need to.

    I have seen anglers of many years experience cast a lot worse than you are doing already, well done, keep at it.
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    Would it help to clamp a towel under the armpit so that the elbow stays glued to the ribcage and can't move out?

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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Quote Originally Posted by Dominikk85 View Post
    Would it help to clamp a towel under the armpit so that the elbow stays glued to the ribcage and can't move out?
    Great idea !
    Last edited by scobo; 14-03-2018 at 04:43 PM.
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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Here it is. Still feels a little bit strange. Back loop feels great but in front line gets a little low.


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    Now I can see it!
    "Time is a stream I go fishing in."

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    Very good, needs a little refining but good, just need to practice now and perfect your timing, try slowing down a little. What were you tucking under your arm?, and why?.
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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Lock that wrist, young man. Accelerate the rod forward to a stop at the 10 ocklock and 2 o’clock positions (to begin with). It’s the acceleration / stopping that loads and unloads the blank.

    I know everyone will tell you to take lessons, I would say go fishing and enjoy... meet people and ask for help when it’s appropriate; loads of folk out there will help you get on top of your casting

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumble54 View Post
    What were you tucking under your arm?, and why?.
    People used to say, tuck a book under your arm to limit upper arm involvement... Joan Wolff included, I never found it helpful.
    "Time is a stream I go fishing in."

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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Quote Originally Posted by bumble54 View Post
    Very good, needs a little refining but good, just need to practice now and perfect your timing, try slowing down a little. What were you tucking under your arm?, and why?.
    I was clamping a sponge under the armpit because I understood you and others that I should not use my whole arm but mostly the forearm. Correct?

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