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    Default Please critique my standard cast

    Hi I'm Dominik and I'm new to the forum. I did a little bit of fly fishing as a kid but now I want to re start. I did watch some videos like lefty kreh, jim green and practiced on a lawn.



    What can I do better? Until about 13-15 meters (depends on wind) I can cast well but then it is getting tough. Also have to work on roll casts but first this.


    It seems my front loop is tighter than my rear loop, isn't it?
    Last edited by Dominikk85; 12-03-2018 at 12:58 PM.

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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Lets start at the beginning, you have an open stance, useful if you want to watch your back cast, but your not watching your back cast.
    Try this, stand square on to the direction of the cast, bend your elbow to 90 degrees, thumb on top of the handle, raise your arm/hand to vertical, keep that 90 degrees, don't let your wrist break backwards, your rod should be at a slight angle behind you, wait for the line to straighten, imagine you are trying to tap a nail with a hammer as you bring your arm forward again. Don't turn your shoulders. Do this with a short line to get the feel of how the line will flow in a straight line, you should feel a slight tug from the line when you get it right.
    This is only a start so that you can get used to the feel of things.
    It is not about power but about the technique required to send the line where you want it to go and with a tight loop.
    If you are still rotating your body sit down to do it.

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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Is there a video clip, nothing for me?
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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Video's are great, if you know and understand what you are seeing and if you are sure that you are doing what you have seen but they can never give you the feel that you get from actually doing it correctly and nothing, repeat nothing can replace one to one lessons with a qualified instructor who can see, analyse and correct your mistakes.
    It still amazes me how so many anglers are resistant to the idea of having their faults ironed out.
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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrtrout View Post
    Is there a video clip, nothing for me?
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    I can’t see them either, since the upgrade?
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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    I agree with bumble coaching will always help. Your stop on the backcast drifts much more than the one in front so the loop opens. Correction with exercises one on one will always help you make much faster progress than getting a load of random and disparate comments on a forum though.

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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    thanks for the answers.


    so takeaway so far:

    -keep the body and shoulders more still and dont turn
    -stop earlier on backcast
    -accelerate smoother

    is that correct?


    maybe I indeed should invest in a coaching lesson. is not cheap but a good cast probably is a better investment than a more expensive rod.

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    Default Re: Please critique my standard cast

    Hi, Dominik. Welcome to the forum and good on you for posting a video. It makes it so much easier to see where you're going wrong.
    It's not so easy to put it into words, though!

    Yes to all three points above.
    I'm going to suggest that sometimes do as bumble suggests and stand more squarely. However, I think there's great advantage in watching the backcast at times when you are learning. You'll see the line extend behind you and you'll be able to watch how far behind the rod tip goes. The first will help with your timing (bumble's 'hammer forward' as the cast is about to straighten) and the second will help the rod to 'load' properly with the weight of the backcast.

    You know when you flicked stuff of the top of a bent ruler at school? You had to keep the bottom hand stiff and bend the ruler back. If vertical = 12 o'clock then you'd bend the ruler to between 1 and 2 o'clock and flick.
    Imagine if you let that bottom hand wrist 'break' backwards - you'd loose all your power and have to push the ruler forward to get power to the missile ....

    It's similar with the cast. If you 'break' your wrist the rod tip goes back too far to store the energy so you have to add it yourself by levering from the shoulders.

    With the line in front of you make an accelerating lift of the rod to an abrupt stop - try one o' clock-ish (where 9 is straight in front of you, 12 straight above, etc.).
    Allow a brief pause for the line to fly behind (watch it if you will) then tap forwards using mainly the forearm with that stiff wrist. Being progressive with the power helps but takes practice. It'll come. Stop the rod around 10 o'clock ahead of you then lower after the cast.
    Once you have your timing it'll no longer be necessary to look behind and you can focus on the water.

    It's an art as much as a science, Dominik, and we each find our own way - eventually! Keep at it, pal.

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