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  1. #1
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    Default cant get it right

    I am really struggling with having a consistent cast, or indeed having the line going straight.
    Ive a Snowbee Diamond II 9ft #7.
    I have tried a couple of lines, all #7, my current line of choice is a Airflo 40+ wf floating which I have the best results.
    Watching a couple of guys today, and their casts are perfect and straight tight lines every time.
    My problems are, in no particular order,
    not straight lines,
    only half the line goes out,
    the lose line wraps around the handle,
    I seem to catch the grass behind me,
    I seem to catch the rod tip,
    etc.

    The other guys just get the lines to elegantly roll from the tip.
    I know its down the lack of fishing and therefore practice but I am wondering if the rod isnt right and perhaps I should try a heavier or lighter set up?

    Any help is gratefully received

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    Default Re: cant get it right

    Rather than waste money on tackle which will do absolutely nothing to improve things, spend some money on casting instruction. Once you can cast well you'll be able to get good results from any outfit.
    And the 2016 Nobel prize for physics goes to J.R. Hartley, who'd have thought a fly fisherman could re-write so many accepted laws Hidden Content

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    Default Re: cant get it right

    James is right, casting lessons will make you better in no time. If you have been casting incorrectly, you will just be frustrated even with the best equipment. In fact your gear doesn't seem to bad at all. A few lessons will be the best investment you make (you still need to practice what you learn though).
    Last edited by fishing hobo; 22-05-2018 at 09:24 PM.

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    Default Re: cant get it right

    I fully agree with the previous posts. Casting lessons are definitely the way to go, and not a different rod/line combination. It sounds to me that you are lingering in the back cast and the line is dropping. This may also be why you are catching the rod tip on the forward cast. How you start and end each stroke could also be factors. Casting lessons will get any and all problems sorted out in short order.

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    Default Re: cant get it right

    Back to basics, stop trying to emulate others and practice short accurate casts. Don't over power everything. If something is fundamentally wrong with your cast an instructor will sort it out in a fraction of the time you will take. Even with a wildly mismatched outfit you should still be able to make a half decent cast so don't blame the tools.

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    Default Re: cant get it right

    New rod/line will not help.. As said, short casts and get them right.. Get the back cast right, stop and don't drift, get the timing right and work from there.. And, as said, a lesson will work wonders.. (The other option is lots of practise, many videos and books, and more practise.. You will end up with a reasonable cast in a year or two.. A lesson will still be better.. )

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    Wish I had a quid for every post that starts with an ailment and ends with 'should I buy a new...'

    Speak to a casting doctor and get a diagnosis.

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    Default Re: cant get it right

    The gear you possess is manufactured to do a specific job, however, it seems that you haven't been trained to undertake the particular tasks your equipment is designed to carry out. A definite ideal would be to pay whatever expense, just to be inducted into using that equipment. So, a lesson or 2 with a qualified instructor would be far less expensive than re-equipping yourself.
    2019 & it will be time for a change.

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    The first thing a man does(women don't seem to do this) when considering fly fishing is become strangely interested in the gear, it seems to be all consuming, which rod, what length, what weight etc, etc, the compulsion to get started is strong and needs to be stamped with a purchase, I remember returning from the shop with my first adult bought rod and it felt good, it raises serotonin levels in the brain I reckon because it felt that good, its more than a shopping experience and its a spectacular thing to behold, but it is like someone who has never driven buying a car, there is a tangible feeling of the adventure ahead, you don't want to be bothered with the messy process of learning at this moment, your a man, with a rod, and a weekend to put the first fish on the bank, mine was a river I knew well, I had seen fish rise and knew it was going to be hard but seen it many times and ready for the challenge.

    10 mins in the fkn rod didn't work, there was something wrong with the fkn line, the fkn wind and every other fkn element was conspiring to make it impossible to cast, I remember a lot of fkn's that day, a sympathetic girlfriend at the time suggested casting lessons, which was obviously absolutely ridiculous partly because I had learned to cast as a child and done it before, and partly because I didn't want to admit I didn't actually have a clue what I was doing, she booked a double handed salmon casting lesson for my birthday

    I managed to persuade the instructor to change it to a single handed lesson and announced that I was actually ok and just needed a few pointers, he did a fantastic job of not laughing, the reality took a lot longer than my expectation and it took several lessons before my movements turned into confident looking casts, the more I learned the more I began to realise that the stuff in my head was mostly nonsense and the tiny bits of skill that began appearing were gold dust, its just not easy to get good and the quickest way is with someone that can do the thing you want to, sure you can get there and catch fish, you can even be a great angler without ever going through this pain, you don't even need to be a particularly good caster to get by and catch the odd fish, but if you want to be good at it there are fundamental principles to learn and develop, I'm not a great student, impatient and lack focus, its not something I enjoy but I'm glad I did, and if I could wind the clock back I would have done it before buying a rod, I'd have tried theirs and bought that, instructors have the best put together kit you will ever pick up.

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    Default Re: cant get it right

    Quote Originally Posted by bumble54 View Post
    Back to basics, stop trying to emulate others and practice short accurate casts. Don't over power everything. If something is fundamentally wrong with your cast an instructor will sort it out in a fraction of the time you will take. Even with a wildly mismatched outfit you should still be able to make a half decent cast so don't blame the tools.
    If I had to pick just one thing with teaching folks how to cast a 2hander ,,,, trying to 'over power' the cast would be at the top of my list. You just couldn't get through their heads (one particular run) the 'fish travel about 40 - 60 feet off your toes. A 100 foot cast is a waste of your time.'

    fae
    Fred Evans - White City, Oregon

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