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    Default Tips for casting a very short line

    What are your tips for casting a very short line in a small stream, especially when shooting line?

    Fly lines are weighted for 9 meters, so ideally you always have 9m out. But what do you do when you often have to reel in almost all of the fly line, for example when stripping a streamer?

    It seems like when having just 2m out that the line is not heavy enough to shoot well without doing 10 false casts for lengthening.

    What would you do then? Avoid pulling in too much line? Overline or using a different taper? Different casting style?

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    Default Re: Tips for casting a very short line

    Quote Originally Posted by Dominikk85 View Post
    What are your tips for casting a very short line in a small stream, especially when shooting line?

    Fly lines are weighted for 9 meters, so ideally you always have 9m out. But what do you do when you often have to reel in almost all of the fly line, for example when stripping a streamer?

    It seems like when having just 2m out that the line is not heavy enough to shoot well without doing 10 false casts for lengthening.

    What would you do then? Avoid pulling in too much line? Overline or using a different taper? Different casting style?
    I'd end the retrieve at your 9m, trap the line with the rod hand then continue drawing the line in by raising the rod tip up into a roll cast, then roll and shoot.

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    Default Re: Tips for casting a very short line

    I'd overline by one or two weights and as ohanzee says start off with a roll cast - best of both worlds. Even if you can't shoot line with your roll it'll at least mean you have enough line out to only need one or two false casts. In tight situations I've used a #5 on a 7' #3 rod for example.

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    Default Re: Tips for casting a very short line

    Small stream fishing is more of a stealth game , short leaders , even short tippets if the need arises . 9 metres of fly line is a bit OTT , side casts to avoid trees , roll casts and bow and arrow casts in tight spots .

    7 foot fly rods for dry fly work , old fashioned up stream nymph fishing always worth a go , you might get away with a 8 to 9 foot rod for a spot of French nymph fishing , all depends on the make up of the river .

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    Default Re: Tips for casting a very short line

    There are a few options you could overweight your line or buy a line specifically for rivers and shortline work. I have found a double taper can load the rod quicker with less line out of the tip.

    Have you tried a search on youtube to see how to cast a short line? Hywell Morgan does show a few different casting techniques but not sure he does one for this or not.

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    Default Re: Tips for casting a very short line

    Here is a short simple video I found which may help.



    Two things I took from it is he is using a glass rod so a softer action rod will load quicker with less line although he doesn't tell you this. Also a tapered leader will help a bit along with a shorter sharper casting stroke.

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    Default Re: Tips for casting a very short line

    I think barrio small stream is purpose built for your application there head's are only 20ft, i don't own one but im sure info on them won't be hard to find on this forum
    Smallstream | Barrio Fly Lines
    Al

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    Default Re: Tips for casting a very short line

    Casting a short line, without buying another line, is a fairly simple affair, the trick is to load the rod just enough to do the job, slow down the cast, haul the line on the back cast, this increases the load on the rod and has the same effect as using a line size higher. It's the momentum of the line that is important not the line weight. Think about a bullet shot from a gun, a higher charge will put more momentum into the bullet and it goes further. Don't overdo the haul on the forward cast but instead aim to maintain tension in the line, over powering the forward cast will cause tangles and bungled presentation, remember to aim your cast over the water and not at it. I was told that if you look at the target you will hit the target so don't fix your gaze on the actual fish/rise but above it instead.

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    Default Re: Tips for casting a very short line

    I think you have some excellent advice on this thread. My brook set up is a 7ft 3wt, through action rod and I use the Bario small stream with it. The video advice above on using a tapered leader and shortened casting stroke is useful too. I also keep the line well dressed so that I can shoot the line with a roll cast and minimum false casting. I'm rarely catching fish beyond 20 ft away and frequently a lot closer.
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    Default Re: Tips for casting a very short line

    Alternately if casting a short line a problem, stand further back

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