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    Default Re: Suggestions for a casting instructor in the Edinburgh/Central Scotland area

    Quote Originally Posted by suzuki15hp View Post
    That's bad. I'm sorry to hear that. I haven't seen him for a few years, nearly 10 years in fact, thinking back. I visited him at his house then. He must be in his 90's now.
    92 I think, he's still got the same energy despite not standing up as much, and in good spirits last time I saw him before Xmas.

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    Default Re: Suggestions for a casting instructor in the Edinburgh/Central Scotland area

    I know this may sound weird, but have you tried casting across your body,so that you are actually casting from the right side, this should stop your rotor cuff problem, I had a similar problem years back, but it was caused by shooting a heavy bow,it made it so I could only cast by keeping my arm close to my body, and casting from the left, did it for me, but with my right hand, may be worth a try , you have nothing to lose, easker1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n Fishy View Post

    I've also got a new exercise to do with the Theraband (giant elastic band, with one end anchored). It's uncannily like John Travolta's signature move in Saturday Night Fever. I am finding it helps to stick my left thumb in the air and sing, "Night Fever, Night Fever..." as I do the moves...

    Col
    We should get together, using a Theraband at present to sort out chronic Plantar Fasciitis - so more the Olivia Newton John footwork than Travolta moves (you should see my hip moves) - could make a great stage act!
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    Quote Originally Posted by easker1 View Post
    I know this may sound weird, but have you tried casting across your body,so that you are actually casting from the right side, this should stop your rotor cuff problem, I had a similar problem years back, but it was caused by shooting a heavy bow,it made it so I could only cast by keeping my arm close to my body, and casting from the left, did it for me, but with my right hand, may be worth a try , you have nothing to lose, easker1
    The problem there is that the whole reason I cast out wide to the left is to keep away from boat partners on the right end of the boat. So, if I were to try casting over my right shoulder, I would be inclined to clash with the person on the right end of the boat. I'm prepared to try a compromise of just casting with the rod vertically above me. When I try the action, I don't get the pain I get when my arm is out at 45 degrees. But I'm so long in the tooth and set in my ways that I would need an instructor to help me with the correction, no matter what I try to change...

    Here are two typical boat partners keeping out of each other's way...



    That's not me on the right of the photo, but that is pretty much what I look like when casting.

    Col
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    Quote Originally Posted by olive_dabbler View Post
    We should get together, using a Theraband at present to sort out chronic Plantar Fasciitis - so more the Olivia Newton John footwork than Travolta moves (you should see my hip moves) - could make a great stage act!
    Amazing what can be achieved with nothing more than a big lacky band, eh?
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    Casting with the 'other' hand is often surprisingly 'correct', bad habits don't transfer that much, what is murder is hauling with your rod hand, it feels strangely mechanical at first but it comes, good opportunity to rebuild a good stroke from scratch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohanzee View Post
    Casting with the 'other' hand is often surprisingly 'correct', bad habits don't transfer that much, what is murder is hauling with your rod hand, it feels strangely mechanical at first but it comes, good opportunity to rebuild a good stroke from scratch.
    That is Plan B. As you say, any time I have tried it, it's not the 'new rod hand' that finds it difficult but the 'old rod hand' wondering what to do with the line that is the main problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n Fishy View Post
    That is Plan B. As you say, any time I have tried it, it's not the 'new rod hand' that finds it difficult but the 'old rod hand' wondering what to do with the line that is the main problem.
    That is the hard part but its all possible, if you can ease the pain by changing plane and casting vertically there are some simple drills that will get you casting with near zero effort, physical ergonomics are a big thing now.

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    Default Re: Suggestions for a casting instructor in the Edinburgh/Central Scotland area

    Hi Col
    I just checked with the Minister who is full bottle on anatomy and movement. Joint report (cough). The rotator cuff is a collection of muscles which play a part in abducting the arm and in rotating it within the shoulder joint. For rotation, think arm out, palm up, rotate whole arm inwards, hand will go past palm down to hand vertical. I don't know how generalised or specific (to one muscle) your tendonitis is - inflamed tendons connecting muscle(s) to the bone(s). Obviously, it might have something to do with both rotator cuff functions. (Angry tendons love ice btw.)

    What I would say to the guy in the picture, assuming he complained of soreness and asked, would be "bend your elbow, bring your arm in closer to the torso and relieve some the strain caused by holding your arm so far out. Yes, you'll cast more overhead and less out wide but if your tracking is ok nobody will be in much danger. You can still cant the cast somewhat to the side by angling of your forearm out a bit if you really want to."

    Maybe that's what you meant in the earlier post about a more classic style. The "foundation casting stroke" as Jason Borger would describe it has the elbow tucked in.

    Cheers
    Mark

    ps Assume that is something like Alan is suggesting by changing the plane of the cast to ease the pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geenomad View Post
    ps Assume that is something like Alan is suggesting by changing the plane of the cast to ease the pain.

    I'm with your observation, if you hold a bag of sugar with an extended arm its heavier than bent at the elbow, they are on the back cast so hard to say if they are extended through the cast though.

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