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    I will need to shoot some video of the Lefties Boat Fishers' Club in action.

    My own action is a kind of a progression from drawing the flies up and dribbling the bob and then holding, holding for a late take, so the boat is starting to run over the cast as I start the draw the flies out. To recover the situation, I do a kind of forward snap roll to get the flies into the air, and I progress that into a single false cast to extend line, and then a shoot. It's all done with a very wide loop in an out to the side, barrelling action. There is a lot of straight arm involved. On the plus side, it is very economical - the flies are in the water a high percentage of the time (on the old adage you don't catch fish while your flies are in the air). On the down side, 40 plus years of it have knacked my shoulder. It might help to put a second false cast in, so I am not using as much force. I did used to tend to use 2 false casts, but I seem to have reduced that to a single over the years.

    Col
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    Try fitting an extension handle to your rod and together with a Barrio SLX line you would be able to roll or spey cast double handed thus keeping your arm movement to a minimum.

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    Default Re: Suggestions for a casting instructor in the Edinburgh/Central Scotland area

    Quote Originally Posted by tenet View Post
    Try fitting an extension handle to your rod and together with a Barrio SLX line you would be able to roll or spey cast double handed thus keeping your arm movement to a minimum.
    Do you not find the slx a bit slow or more false casts to get the head outside the top eye?

    Al

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenet View Post
    Try fitting an extension handle to your rod and together with a Barrio SLX line you would be able to roll or spey cast double handed thus keeping your arm movement to a minimum.
    Aye, that is somewhere around Plan C or Plan D, depending on how I get on. I am still hopeful I can get the shoulder sorted with time and physio, and help it by straightening up my action. I had a very kind offer of a get-together from a forum member who lives in the next street to mine! Who knew?! We are having a get-together in the local park tomorrow, and I will take it from there.

    Col
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    Quote Originally Posted by speytime View Post
    Do you not find the slx a bit slow or more false casts to get the head outside the top eye?

    Al
    I tend to use my slx with my wt6 9 footer from a drifting boat. Work the fly back then lift and roll with fly and leader not touching the water and go straight into a back cast and then shoot. Probably fishing between 50 and 60ft in front of boat which is good enough for me.

    When Lough fishing for salmon I use a 11ft 3 in Daiwa Lochmore Z with extension handle with a wt8/9 line and again roll, back cast and shoot. My problems are a weak wrist when using heavier and longer rods and found the double handed technique works for me. As my aged body deteriorates (73 now) may well experiment with the trout rated switch rods which are gaining popularity in the States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenet View Post
    When Lough fishing for salmon I use a 11ft 3 in Daiwa Lochmore Z with extension handle with a wt8/9 line and again roll, back cast and shoot...
    It's one of the issues I have, certainly - is changing weights and doing the same thing with it. I go from pulling wets for half-pound brownies with 5-weight gear, up to fly fishing for salmon, sea trout and ferox with exactly the same technique, but geared-up to 7-weight. It was noticeable that the injury came about after a full week at the end of August, fishing for salmon and sea trout with the 7-weight outfit.

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    Default Re: Suggestions for a casting instructor in the Edinburgh/Central Scotland area

    I did forget to mention , at the time I was using a 10ft6in 6/8rod as well as the archery, for 3 yrs after that I used an 8ft 4wt, until I was settled, and I went on to a 9ft rod which I still use. at the time I read a book by and Aberdeen salmon fisher called Claud Mundle (?) he was using a 16ft Cane salmon rod, and started to have shoulder problems and nearly gave up his fishing, his wife bought him a 12ft carbon fibre rod , and he said it was like a breath of spring, using the lighter rod , he was also a surgeon so he knew what it was about,but good luck with whatever you do , it's a painful problem, easker1

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    Default Re: Suggestions for a casting instructor in the Edinburgh/Central Scotland area

    Quote Originally Posted by tenet View Post
    I tend to use my slx with my wt6 9 footer from a drifting boat. Work the fly back then lift and roll with fly and leader not touching the water and go straight into a back cast and then shoot. Probably fishing between 50 and 60ft in front of boat which is good enough for me.
    I work the line back to the leader loop and found when recasting it needed more false casts to get it going, i put it down to the slx having the bulk of its weight nearer the back of the head?

    That aside I agree that using the extension can put a lot of energy into a cast with minimal effort ��

    @cap'nfishy... what length rod are you using Col, the difference between a 9.6ft and 10ft 7# is quite a substantial difference, a 10fter feels heavy by comparison even though the 10ft is 30g lighter than the 9.6ft.

    Al
    Last edited by speytime; 20-01-2019 at 08:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speytime View Post

    what length rod are you using Col, the difference between a 9.6ft and 10ft 7# is quite a substantial difference, a 10fter feels heavy by comparison even though the 10ft is 30g lighter than the 9.6ft.

    Same thinking as me but, and its a maybe a big but, can you hang a fly late and get enough sweep with the shorter rod to lift the line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speytime View Post
    @cap'nfishy... what length rod are you using Col, the difference between a 9.6ft and 10ft 7# is quite a substantial difference, a 10fter feels heavy by comparison even though the 10ft is 30g lighter than the 9.6ft.

    Al
    Loch-styling = 10 ft. Just no getting round it. I use 9 ft 6 in for dry fly and 10 ft for everything else when boat fishing. I can try coming down if other plans don't work. I realise the benefits, having given up using my 11 ft loch-style rod, as I know the extra strains it was putting on my arm. But end of the day, loch-style = 10 ft.

    Col

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohanzee View Post
    ... can you hang a fly late and get enough sweep with the shorter rod to lift the line?
    Not to my liking. Loch-style = 10 ft for me.
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