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    Quote Originally Posted by claretdabbler View Post
    Hi all, thought Id name and shame myself as Cols incompetent instructor.
    Cheers Davie - wasn't sure if you wanted to be identified on here, so glad you have come in. Definitely very competent!

    One thing I was wishing we had done yesterday was something I remembered doing on the one and only occasion I have had professional casting instruction. It was on a whim, many, many years ago, a friend and I went down to the Tweed and had a session with Ron(?) Brown, I think it was - to see if we could iron-out some of our bad ways. One of the things he did with me was double-hauling, and to get the timing and rhythm, he held the rod but got me to put my hand on top of his hand. (No homo-erotic overtones, I can assure you! ) That was easy to do with me being a leftie - I just stood alongside him. It really helped me to get the rhythm of it. I was thinking we should have done that to help me get the feel of taking the force out (that I am wrongly putting into it).

    Many thanks again for yesterday - as you say, we probably spent more time gassing about fishing than casting!

    Col
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    Quote Originally Posted by claretdabbler View Post
    One more point I forgot to add is loop size, obviously Col needs a wider loop when fishing a team of flies. Most of the casting advice concentrates on getting nice tight loops which is fine for fishing a single dry but can cause obvious problems when fishing a team. Advice on controlling loop size might be helpful.
    Davie.
    Aye, this is the thing - years and years of fishing a team of 3 wets with a big wind on my back... the use of a continuously moving back-and-forward action in a wide rolling loop means you can fish all day without a single tangle. It's just now that my shoulder has got an age where it is saying, 'you can't do that any more, laddie!'

    Col
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    I have fished 3 flies forever and I rarely have a problem, this may be because I don't think about it,so I don't over analyse, but again it is easier to see it than to try and picture it,a long time back I read Peter Lapsleys book on casting he proposed a steeple cast casting up as well as back,perhaps this opens up a loop( I know it does) so I keep doing it it's also handy for steep banks behind, especially when you are trying to put out a long line, just Ideas , easker1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n Fishy View Post
    Never been mentioned by either the doc or the physio, Scott. Never would have thought you could do that sort of thing with lasers. Not just for scaring cormorants, eh? The physio said the fallback was steroid injections. However, I am still hopeful of natural repair. Just the last few days has seen improvement. I have my new programme with the weights to get sorted out on my fancy-dan app, so I can see the movements to do.

    Col
    Aye, I get the impression they're not keen to offer laser these days. Probably due to the cost involved.
    I had a bit of bother with my right arm last year. Fortunately, the anti inflammatories worked this time but I asked the doc if they still do the laser and he kind of dodged the question saying they don't have anyone local that does it now.
    Basically, the laser fires deep down into the problem area and heats it up. You can feel the heat building during the treatment.
    Really effective and fixed the problem I had in my left arm quickly.
    Scott

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    Something that was very very helpful to me learning to double hual was using a sink line to practice with preferably one that's overweight, a sink line shoots far better so the line on the back haul gets drawn out your hand with more authority, once you find the rhythm keep it going until you feel your arm is going to fall off.

    Once you find that rhythm you can go back to your normal 5/6/7wt floater for continued practice.

    it's like riding a bike once you have the rhythm ��

    Eta
    If there's any kind of wind/breeze stand parallel to it? so the breeze is to your left or right shoulder, for me anyway a double haul is difficult with a decent breeze behind me?

    Al
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    Quote Originally Posted by speytime View Post
    If there's any kind of wind/breeze stand parallel to it? so the breeze is to your left or right shoulder, for me anyway a double haul is difficult with a decent breeze behind me?

    Al
    Aye, bear in mind I am a boat fisherman. If there is a wind, it will be pushing the boat from directly behind. In all honesty I have needed to use a double-haul once in a blue moon, but interestingly I can still draw on the rhythm I picked up from putting my hand on Ron Brown's while he did it.

    Col
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    Quote Originally Posted by scobo View Post
    Aye, I get the impression they're not keen to offer laser these days. Probably due to the cost involved.
    I had a bit of bother with my right arm last year. Fortunately, the anti inflammatories worked this time but I asked the doc if they still do the laser and he kind of dodged the question saying they don't have anyone local that does it now.
    Basically, the laser fires deep down into the problem area and heats it up. You can feel the heat building during the treatment.
    Really effective and fixed the problem I had in my left arm quickly.
    My physio was certainly recommending heat for my shoulder. Said to stand in the shower with the water going onto it, sort of thing. I'm not much into standing in the shower for long periods, so I got myself one of these for sitting in front of the PC or telly...

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Good - toasty shoulder!

    Col
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    A few thoughts, having read the further replies.

    Col. For heat you might try a cloth bag filled with wheat. Don't know where you get same but we have several around the place. You put them in the microwave and they hold the heat very well.

    Davie. No offence intended but I am reluctant to comment on a caster's technique without having seen them cast. Video footage?

    Both. I have fished loch style but that doesn't mean my experience and the typical conditions match yours. Also, it depends on how long the presentation casts are going to be. A simple question is often not so simple.

    The problem with a heavy tail wind is that it combines with a short fly line to make slipping line/shooting difficult or impossible on the back cast. The reason is the lack of mass being accelerated to which the angler instinctively responds by using more force. F=ma. In turn, "tempo" encourages overpowering on the forward cast. Far easier to roll and slip enough line out downwind, punch the back cast with a haul and finesse the delivery cast with haul and shoot. Depending on boat speed this might involve an unwanted intrusion into some of the water about to be fished.

    Hang sooner and figure 8 some of the slack faster rather than lifting the rod quite so high and letting the boat drift over the cast. That way some more line could be slipped during the lift, snap and roll sequence.

    Make a couple of forward rolls maybe and use the water to help slip line as you move back for the second one. Assume we are talking dynamic rolls although they might not feel dynamic enough.

    Haul timing is another subject than can get complicated, including the release. Rule of thumb is haul late in the casting stroke and release quickly but I reserve the right to make exceptions because hauling is about sharing the work between rod and line hands. More with one means less from the other. Tempo is very important to me. Balanced, shared effort between hands aids my casting finesse. Sight fishing can demand a lot from technique which is a big part of why I love it.

    Cheers
    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by geenomad View Post
    Col. For heat you might try a cloth bag filled with wheat. Don't know where you get same but we have several around the place. You put them in the microwave and they hold the heat very well.
    Thanks for the suggestion, Mark, but I've got the electric pad, so that is all I need.

    Quote Originally Posted by geenomad View Post
    I am reluctant to comment on a caster's technique without having seen them cast.
    Davie was watching me. We had a casting session in the local park.

    Quote Originally Posted by geenomad View Post
    I have fished loch style but that doesn't mean my experience and the typical conditions match yours.
    This is it. I have been loch-styling for 50 years, so what I do in terms of the fishing has been fine-tuned over many years, based on what catches me fish. I'm not going to tinker with that bit now. The shoulder and the casting is going to have to deal with it.

    Col
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