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    Default Re: Best tippet for competitions

    Quote Originally Posted by trout_bum1 View Post
    And another thing: there are those who will you YOU MUST NEVER EVER USE FLUOROCARBON WHEN FISHING DRIES! Okay. Now watch the very same so called experts inform you just how to fish dries from a drifting boat with mono as their leader.
    What is the first thing they do...get out some mud usually fullers earth or Hunt’s brand or suchlike then apply to their mono so it sinks. Then tell you to fan cast leaving your flies on the water for around 10 seconds then recast and so on. Sweet Jesus. You think a fluorocarbon leader is going to drag your dries down quicker than mud on mono not to mention how mud on mono looks: like a big thick hawser rope. Bullshit baffles brains comes to mind.

    Just my two pence worth.
    The only other person on here who has spotted this. Always makes me laugh does this thing about fluoro dragging flies under in seconds. In fact, when I use fluoro for dries whether on river or lake I always have a slight feeling of disappointment when the flies stubbornly stay afloat despite the best efforts of the leader material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout_bum1 View Post
    What is the first thing they do...get out some mud usually fullers earth or Hunt’s brand or suchlike then apply to their mono so it sinks. Then tell you to fan cast leaving your flies on the water for around 10 seconds then recast and so on. Sweet Jesus. You think a fluorocarbon leader is going to drag your dries down quicker than mud on mono not to mention how mud on mono looks: like a big thick hawser rope. Bullshit baffles brains comes to mind.

    Just my two pence worth.
    Firstly...the point of using fullers earth isn't to drag the leader under.Its to allow the leader (both fluorocarbon and nylon) to cut through the surface film.Once it has achieved that ,it washes off more or less immediately. Fluorocarbon once it is through the film, absolutely does run a greater risk of dragging the fly under because its denser than nylon. Thats a fact...not bullshit.

    Secondly, not everyone subscribes to the idea that we need to lift off every ten seconds to fish dries effectively.

    Ignorance is bliss I guess.....
    Last edited by Wee Jimmy; 12-08-2019 at 10:34 AM.

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    Default Re: Best tippet for competitions

    from Sunray:


    "Fluorocarbon is only slightly heavier than nylon, around 0.64 to 0.74 grams per cubic centimetre. This is a difference of maximum 0.000074 grams per centimetre of a 0.10 mm diameter tippet. One meter tippet of 0.10 mm diameter will be 0.0074 grams heavier than the nylon. This tiny difference will not make a nymph sink faster! In the overall picture and in flowing water, this minuscule value is negligible".

    Makes sense to me. So much marketing BS with fluoro. If you want to spend 2 or 3 times more for all those "benefits" - your choice !
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    Default Re: Best tippet for competitions

    Tested with a 8" jug of water on my bunker and 3" of airflo 0.23 and 3" of maxima 0.23 measured with micrometer
    Maxima nylon 19 seconds for 8"
    Airflo G3 fluorocarbon 7 seconds for 8".
    Of course that's not exact but it does demonstrate the huge difference between the two materials.

    Al
    Last edited by speytime; 12-08-2019 at 01:36 PM.

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    Default Re: Best tippet for competitions

    Just looked it up- specific gravity of nylon = 1.15 and fluorocarbon =1.77 ( they weigh 1.15 and 1.77 grams per cc respectively) , ie fluoro weighs 1 1/2 x that of nylon( water is 1.0)

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    Default Re: Best tippet for competitions

    Quote Originally Posted by fruinfisher View Post
    Just looked it up- specific gravity of nylon = 1.15 and fluorocarbon =1.77 ( they weigh 1.15 and 1.77 grams per cc respectively) , ie fluoro weighs 1 1/2 x that of nylon( water is 1.0)
    So, how many grams are there in a 3' 0.14mm tippet, and is that going to drag a dry fly under the water in the time it takes that fly to drift 6' on a river?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speytime View Post
    Tested with a 8" jug of water on my bunker and 3" of airflo 0.23 and 3" of maxima 0.23 measured with micrometer
    Maxima nylon 19 seconds for 8"
    Airflo G3 fluorocarbon 7 seconds for 8".
    During your experiment, how did you manage to see the G3 when it's 'nearly invisible' in water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrnotherone View Post
    During your experiment, how did you manage to see the G3 when it's 'nearly invisible' in water?
    went over both with a black marker, i also use a dash of fairy to stop it hanging up on the surface tension.
    Needless to say when i 1st tried without the black marker I couldn't see it

    Al

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    i also use a dash of fairy to stop it hanging up on the surface tension

    The surface tension is the problem !!. In my experience flurocarbon is more of a problem than copolymer and that's why I never use flurocarbon when fishing dries.
    You can't change the fish but you can change the fly !

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    Default Re: Best tippet for competitions

    Airflo G3 at 0.23 =10lb,

    Maxima Ultragreen at 10lb = 0.3

    However with Airflo G5 the nearest to 0.23 is the 11.2lb at 0.235

    testing the sink speed lb for lb would be a better test
    There are two basic fly designs, those designed to catch fish and those designed to catch fishermen, the latter being the best seller

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