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    ...and I think the NZ forum is hosted by a South Island fly and guide shop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeNZ View Post
    Am not sure where the pressure is in the back country, other than certain guides just saying it. Probably so that they can convince a client they need him and pay him several thousand dollars.
    Looks a bit bad for the guide if someone just rocks up for nothing.

    To the guides, too much pressure, is a client seeing, or worst still being able to talk to another fisherman, especially a local, or an oveseas visitor that just didn't bother with a guide, and caught plenty of fish everywhere he went in NZ..
    I dropped off the NZforum for a while Luke..., as there was a long running argument about restricting oversea angler numbers, it felt a bit unfriendly for a while... saying that only from a few members.... Iíve been back on again since.

    But thereís definitely plenty of press about increasing the £ of overseas licence, reducing how many weeks you can have one for... there was even a proposal to restrict overseas numbers in the backcountry...

    itís interesting to hear your view, itís not as reactionary as many Iíve come across, which is reassuring. I read an article in the NZ press saying angler numbers were too high, caused by guides encouraging too many overseas anglers
    Iíd be happy to pay more for the licence, it all goes back to work on the rivers, happy to support such an amazing fishery if I was back over there. But I hope the anti-oversea angler vibe doesnít gain any traction, NZ was one of the friendliest places Iíve visited

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeNZ View Post
    ...and I think the NZ forum is hosted by a South Island fly and guide shop?
    The ironic thing, the most outspoken person against increased non-kiwi’s fishing was an ex-pat Aussie, who’d been an overseas angler to NZ for years before settling there 10 or so years earlier...
    I decided I needed to drop off the site for a while when I pointed out he’d never be a kiwi
    Yeah i believe it was set up by Steve who owns a fly shop and I used to guide, but seems like a good guy and stays in the middle/moderating ground. There is some useful info on the site if you’re a visitor and take the time to search it.
    I had some really helpful info from people and offers to meet up, although I couldn’t make that work out
    Will definitely head back in a couple of years, Montana first (probably, although my wife would rather NZ first) next time north Island (we just spent 3.5 weeks in SI last time) and some time in SI visiting friends.

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    Think Boisker and Luke have hit it on the head. I visit and fish NZ sometime Feb-March each year, have formed friendships with Kiwi anglers. On the other hand, that forum became an an aggressive unpleasant platform for some anti visitor folk. That said, they also complained about guides (from wherever) controlling access to some of the best waters, saying they should be registered and limited in numbers. Have to agree with that, my experience is that some guides are of the view that freelance angling is almost an offence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyeman1 View Post
    Think Boisker and Luke have hit it on the head. I visit and fish NZ sometime Feb-March each year, have formed friendships with Kiwi anglers. On the other hand, that forum became an an aggressive unpleasant platform for some anti visitor folk. That said, they also complained about guides (from wherever) controlling access to some of the best waters, saying they should be registered and limited in numbers. Have to agree with that, my experience is that some guides are of the view that freelance angling is almost an offence.
    They are trying to control it for their own profit. But they do not have any more rights than you or me. Fishing for trout in NZ is something for everyone for the price of an annual license.

    Guides are trying to slant the table to the benefit of a few (themselves), trying to set up professional guiding organizations to get themselves power, and priority. It is those organizations that are trying to propagate the idea that there is an over fishing issue that only they can resolve.. ..just let them control it..!?!?

    All the fish and every river belongs to every New Zealander, not a few guides. We like visitors, and there are plenty of fish and fishing spots to go around. The guides would like you to buy into their propaganda.

    Next time you see an NZ fishing guide - punch him on the nose! (twice)New Zealand and visiting anglers




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    Next time you see an NZ fishing guide - punch him on the nose! (twice)New Zealand and visiting anglers

    I hope they aren’t too big!
    The guides that is...
    Alternatively, if you’re gonna punch someone on the nose... then a big nose is a bonus

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    [QUOTE=boisker;2604894]
    Quote Originally Posted by LukeNZ View Post

    Next time you see an NZ fishing guide - punch him on the nose! (twice)New Zealand and visiting anglers

    I hope they aren’t too big!
    The guides that is...
    Alternatively, if you’re gonna punch someone on the nose... then a big nose is a bonus
    At my age, think I'll leave the nose punching to others, even if the guide in question is in fact American.

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