Thread: Treat with caution...

Originally Posted by alibongo

I've had problems with the Davy knot, specifically breakoffs when striking.

ali

Tippet diameter and tackle set up ? circumstances ?

Best. JP

I don't tie the Davy on really thin tippets and if I anticipate larger fish such as on stillwater as I don't think they are robust enough even if tied properly. I use the Uni knot when I really want a reliable knot.

Originally Posted by fishing hobo

I don't tie the Davy on really thin tippets and if I anticipate larger fish such as on stillwater as I don't think they are robust enough even if tied properly. I use the Uni knot when I really want a reliable knot.

I did read somewhere it was developed as a competition knot where a quick change knot may make a difference?

Whatever, I didn't find it reliable enough even when just using it with traditional nylon. I've some 2lb Maxima I still use if nymphing. It's the camo variation. I used to use it when fishing a dry and, much to my amazement, I caught enough to be content within a session.

My trying co-polymer tippet is as much about introducing change into fishing the same old same old limited streams. I wanted something new once things got predictable. I also liked their more delicate presentation as a dry fly fanboy.

At the end of the day I have a knot that is as reliable with the new lines as I have with the old. it's a result, but I lost a lot of fish getting there

Beryl. Tenkara knot is a good'un have tried and tested it but the Davy knot failure is baffling.Some Tenkara tutorials advocate the use of the Davy knot so even more of a mystery.I have sat here and tied it with all manner of lines and hook sizes because if flawed I want to know about it.This is tying the standard knot.I rarely use the improved version.The only possible difference is I do not fish ultra fine tippets.

Best JP

Still nobody trying the Penny Knot ?

I've had enough failures with the tucked blood, the Davy and improved Davy to put me of them for good.
I use the Grinner (uni) for sea angling but find it fiddly for fly fishing.
The Penny Knot is easy to tie with forceps, small, and has not let me down yet, surely worth a go?

Originally Posted by JCP

Beryl. Tenkara knot is a good'un have tried and tested it but the Davy knot failure is baffling.Some Tenkara tutorials advocate the use of the Davy knot so even more of a mystery.I have sat here and tied it with all manner of lines and hook sizes because if flawed I want to know about it.This is tying the standard knot.I rarely use the improved version.The only possible difference is I do not fish ultra fine tippets.

Best JP

I concluded it must be something to do with fine tippets as most didn't appear to have the problems with co-polymer I had and most don't fish small streams on very light tackle. Not very scientific but the best I could do

I had only a couple of inexplicable breaks all season so consider the problem sorted. I've managed to get the tag-end scrap down a bit by just getting more proficient at tying it. But it would need some sort of 'former' to reduce further. I feel an excuse for buying a very cold lolly coming on....

Originally Posted by morayfisher

Still nobody trying the Penny Knot ?

I've had enough failures with the tucked blood, the Davy and improved Davy to put me of them for good.
I use the Grinner (uni) for sea angling but find it fiddly for fly fishing.
The Penny Knot is easy to tie with forceps, small, and has not let me down yet, surely worth a go?

Neat that it can be tied aided with forceps, a ' former' I was thinking about in a previous post. It's simular in that the knot is created upline of its final destination. I wonder how close they are? In a earlier post I did wonder if a knot with a different name was the same as the 'one' knot, just tied differently. Being me I didn't follow it up