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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Leader To Fly Line Connection

    Quote Originally Posted by JCP View Post
    Try attaching furled leader finished with a tippet ring to your fly line and tie your attach your actual tippet to the ring.Will make life a lot easier.You can easily adjust make up of the actual tippet to suit needs/conditions and makes changeout simple task in the field/on the water.Contact Mr Trout a fellow forum member who will twirl up a furlie or two to suit your outfit.Give it a try.Well worth the effort.Then we can discuss letting you into the Furlie Club

    Best JP
    This is the advice you are looking for

    Leader butts needle knotted and glued into fly lines are all a bit permanent for a learner, if you plant that glued in leader into a tree, or cast into it an unrecoverable set of wind knots, you are scuppered.

    Plus- these permanent methods of leader attachment; they are fine for dry fly, but would leave your options a bit limited for nymphing, especially if you want to try the euro methods.

    Keep your fly line loop and attach a 4 or 5 ft furled leader to it. For what you are doing it's by far the most versatile and user friendly.
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    Default Re: Leader To Fly Line Connection

    Quote Originally Posted by saltc View Post
    Hi All,

    I'm new to fly fishing and have just started out this year, I'm writing this post hoping some of the experienced members could offer some advice.

    I will be on small rivers and will be starting off fishing nymphs, dries and the duo on a x6 leader and tippet.

    What are the best knots to use for when I have to change my leaders? I have a floating 5wt fly line which has a ready made loop and have been using the Greys 9ft tapered, I don't want to have to cut these at the butt section every time I swap them when using larger flies ect...

    Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated.

    You might want a set up that is versatile for fishing nymphs , dries and the Duo , its worth considering using a spare spool , one for dries with the dry fly leader already on the spool , we are talking about rivers and things can soon change on any given day .

    You might prefer to use a French Leader that will allow you to fish nymphs and the Duo , by the use of tippet rings on your nymph / Duo leader then all you need is to replace your tippets .

    The other option if you don't carry spare spools but still want to fish nymphs , dries and the Duo is to have a system that allows you to change methods .

    The Roman Moser mini small trout loops are great , you could use perfection loops on your chosen leaders , a simple way to store your leaders is by using foam rig winders .

  3. #23

    Default Re: Leader To Fly Line Connection

    Quote Originally Posted by ohanzee View Post
    Actually I remember trying to convince you, I just take any opportunity to post that pic
    Actually, I took my standard needle-knotted #7 weight to a salmon river, the guide looked at the knot, wrapped the line round his left hand and the leader round his right and gave it a huge tug. The line - not the leader - snapped clean at the knot.

    He gave me what used to be called an old fashione look and whipped on a loop.

    I've never seen a line break before. It gave me pause for thought, particularly as there were fish in that river over a meter long. (Biggest I got was 75cm).

    It's ok fishing with a guide as they net the fish for you and you can back onto the bank so the knot doesn't get near your top ring, but if you're on your own using 3 buzzers and an 18 leader that leader knot comes into play - hence the use of the smooth needle knot.

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    Default Re: Leader To Fly Line Connection

    I melt very small eyed loops (like factory) and bloodknot my leader in the centre, finishing it off with zap because of water seepage. That said i fished both three week trips to norway with nail knotted not through the line leaders. Sometimes i use a knot cover. Like Alan Im going to include a picture that supposedly shows you the knot cover..



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    Default Re: Leader To Fly Line Connection

    Quote Originally Posted by dutchy1978 View Post
    Sometimes i use a knot cover. Like Alan Im going to include a picture that supposedly shows you the knot cover..

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    Default Re: Leader To Fly Line Connection

    It’s for nerds, but down to a 3# Line is easy to stuff a heated needle through the middle. Then taper the fat end of a standard leader, dress it with a little araldite and stick both together. Leave overnight and you will have a joint that has none of the extra bulk of the nail knot and is completely reliable. Modern materials are amazing: you don’t need belt and braces anymore.

    I used this setup until I took a liking to silk lines, about two years. Never failed, even with tree trouts.
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    Default Re: Leader To Fly Line Connection

    For a nice neat loop strip a few inches off poke a needle threader down inside the core then pull the tip inside, as you would with regular braid, then aquasure it.
    That method gives an extremely neat finish.
    Al
    Last edited by speytime; 05-01-2018 at 01:57 PM.

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    Default Re: Leader To Fly Line Connection

    Some time ago I saw Charles Jardine demonstarte joining a fly line to leader, and he glued it up the inside with some sort of 'super glue' and swore the joint was stronger than the fly line....but I have never been able to find any instructions on his method. Does anyone know where to find them please? What I type into google comes up with anything but what I want, it is always trying to sell you something.

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    Default Re: Leader To Fly Line Connection

    This?

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    Default Re: Leader To Fly Line Connection

    The only addition to the above posted video technique is to very lightly sand the end of the leader before applying the glue (just enough to roughen the surface)...
    Not sure if it makes any difference, I haven’t tested it, but it is commonly referred to bu other vids/blogs

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