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    Unhappy Guild Award Scheme - Beware!

    Probably about now many of us are hanging up our rods and turning our thoughts to fly dressing and filling our boxes with the latest killing patterns. When all that is done, you may be tempted to have a go at tying the Guild Award flies.

    This is what I did last winter, the Bronze level was fairly easily achieved since I have been tying for many years and it was nice to get the badge and certificate. So I thought I would have a go at the Silver Award flies. A couple of them failed, one I wasn't surprised at, it had given me a few problems so that was acceptable. The other was the hair-wing salmon fly which failed because the wing and the hackle were too short. Unfortunately it turns out that the picture in the Silver Award Syllabus on page 12 is not everybody's idea of the ideal proportions for a salmon fly and despite appealing my flies failed again. I was told that the wing should reach the end of the tail and the beard hackle should nearly reach the hook point.

    The Award Syllabuses are going to be revised and updated but this may take a while, until then beware of that page 12 picture - it is not correct!

    Happy tying everyone!

    frantic

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    Thumbs up Re: Guild Award Scheme - Beware!

    Good point well made! I'm trying to get round to the Silver, and eventually Gold maybe but have hit the wall, personally, not liking my own traditional winging, e.g. on the Olive wet. Hope I get over it soon. Just to add to the debate, however, I do remember very well seeing a framed display of the Guild's flies at a fly fair, tied representing and covering all three levels of the whole award series, and I couldn't help but notice that the 'consistency' was questionable to say the least. It raised a wry smile in me, because at a Grayling Flies workshop I talked to another tier who had a set of three traditional Salmon flies fail the Gold level because the 'thread head wraps were inconsistent', but I couldn't see how or where!
    Perhaps a question of subjectivity? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a 'knocker', a sincere 'big shout out' to everyone who voluntarily helps others.
    <")))><

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    Default Re: Guild Award Scheme - Beware!

    I don't or may not know who your branch tutor's are, or for that matter if either of you are "individual" or branch members. As not every branch has a "resident" Gold standard tutor / examiner. I am one, though I do not take part in any of the national judging events.

    There are several of us dotted around the country & a quick email to the national sec. should be able to point you in the direction of one. If you choose to go down that route & it IS worthwhile & although it may cost you a few stamps etc at least as far as I'm concerned, it's a small price to pay.

    I'm not saying you'll win or get placed etc. but you may well stand a better chance of doing so.

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    Default Re: Guild Award Scheme - Beware!

    Just goes to show the need to have access to an Instructor. At Branch level, should not be an issue. Any steps that need advice with can be discussed with the instructor and a way forward agreed. With our branch all assessments are carried out to NVQ standards as well as the Guilds, this makes it easy to follow what is going on and feedback on each fly submitted, give a path forward to reach the appropriate standard.
    Eddie

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