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    Default Re: Tenkara (sort of) for coarse

    Good to see someone trying something different.
    Looks like it could be interesting on the right water. Certainly the simplicity and pack ability are appealing.
    Let's us know how you get on with different lines jerryrum.
    Only when the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught and the last river poisoned, will we realise, we cannot eat money.

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    Default Re: Tenkara (sort of) for coarse

    I know nothing about tenkara, but about £6 would get you a 12' tapered fluorocarbon salmon leader (eg riverge). With a tippet ring it should last a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speytime View Post
    I once used bright orange Orvis backing, worked ok.
    There is a fine line between the angler and madness

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    Default Re: Tenkara (sort of) for coarse

    How are you getting on jerryrum?
    Have you thought about a carp leader.
    Much longer than you need but you could cut out a section of taper that suits maybe.
    Looks like you can get five x 30’ leaders for £8

    Daiwa Tournament Tapered Carp Leaders - PS7.99
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    Only when the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught and the last river poisoned, will we realise, we cannot eat money.

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    The carp tapers sound similar to the bullet tapers I use for salmon, they are 12m 0.70 then taper down to 0.30 over the last 4mtrs. £8 for 5.
    I suggested them in the past but none of the tenkara users commented either way?

    Al

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    Default Re: Tenkara (sort of) for coarse

    Thank you to everyone who has made suggestions for different line types to use. I am going to start spending a bit of money soon, but in the meantime I have been experimenting with odds and ends found in my fishing drawers.

    6lb mono straight through worked fine with a dry in a very light breeze, but failed miserably in all other tests. The wind has been the main problem here, it seems to have been gusty for months now.

    Currently I am using #3 floating fly line (yellow) which is working great for wet fly and seems to be able to handle anything except casting directly in to a stiff breeze.
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    I still haven’t got myself a Tenkara line holder, but I’m storing the #3 on my son’s pole fishing line holder.
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    It leaves a bit of a kink in the line, but it straightens out after a couple casts
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    This set up is 9’ of fly line to 3’ of 6lb mono and a 2’, 2lb leader. I have had a couple of fish on the surface with a Klinkhammer, but (due to the change in weather) I put it together so I could start fishing wet, with a beaded nymph.

    The yellow fly line is working well as an indicator, but I have a feeling I’d notice more takes with less mono. Once this recent rain has stopped I’ll be less likely to spook the fish while there is still colour in the water. I’ll use that opportunity to fish the shallower margins with only a few feet on mono off the fly line.

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    So I have fallen prey to 'bargains' on wish.com again, and availed myself of some new kit.

    I started off just looking at some tenkara line. I discovered 100m of J#1.5 for only £4 delivered. I was actually looking for J#3 (as I had read on multiple blogs this was the best all round diameter) but I couldn't resist the deal.

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    Whilst there I saw a tenkara rod for only £6 delivered, did I need it? No.
    So obviously I bought it.

    Both were delivered this morning, so at lunchtime I headed down to the river.

    Conditions were less than ideal. The wind was blowing a gale (when hasn't it this year?) and the river was in flood. Fortunately I know a sheltered tributary that comes of one of the lakes.

    When I got there the short section before it joins the river was high, but slow flowing and clear. I tied on 4ft of 2lb leader, and a #14 GRHE.

    The new line and rod combo did not cast very well, but this could have been down to the wind. Also I immediately noticed the rod was heavier than my Goture red fox tenkara rod.

    After five minutes or so I got used to the outfit and managed to land the fly in the shadow of an upstream bridge. The line tweaked, I struck and I had on a smallish Roach. On the light rod it took a bit of playing, but I soon had it to hand.
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    Playing the Roach had scattered the shoal, so I moved down stream to where the turbid river waters mixed with the quieter stream. There is a bank of reeds mid stream here and there is always a mixed shoal of Roach and Dace, with a few small Perch hanging about.

    This time, however, I fished for 10 minutes with no nibbles what so ever. The clouds temporarily parted and a shaft of sunlight revealed why, A 2.5ft Pike hung right next to the reeds.

    Realising I wasn't going to have any luck now I started to retrieve the fly, and of course, sods law, the Pike chased and took the fly!

    I had an exciting few seconds (which felt a lot longer) playing a 4lb Pike on a tenkara rod with 2lb mono, then the inevitable happened and my line pinged back at me.

    So my overall review of the gear is:
    Rod - It does the job, it can catch fish and for £6 you get more than what you pay for. The 3m (9ft) rod telescopes down to 16 inches, which is handy, but it has got no grip, just plastic covered "Carbon". The Goture Red Fox (which is the one I use earlier in this thread) cost a few pounds more, but has a proper grip and feels more like a proper rod (though it is longer when collapsed).

    Line - Struggled in the wind, but for this diameter that's not surprising, I'll test it again on a calm day. What I will say is that it sometimes floated and sometimes sank and I couldn't really work out what was causing this.

    £10 gets you a tenkara taster that catches fish, just don't go after predators with it.

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    Thanks for the write up Jerryrum.
    Always nice to here of someone getting a (worthwhile) bargain.
    The idea of just going for a walk up a burn with the ability to have a cast by carrying such minimalist kit really appeals.
    Only when the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught and the last river poisoned, will we realise, we cannot eat money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morayfisher View Post
    How are you getting on jerryrum?
    Have you thought about a carp leader.
    Much longer than you need but you could cut out a section of taper that suits maybe.
    Looks like you can get five x 30’ leaders for £8

    Daiwa Tournament Tapered Carp Leaders - PS7.99
    They tapers are quite a bargain at roughly £1.50 per taper, the diameter of the butt 0.45 is much thinner than greys, diawa, leeda and maxcatch all of which imo have unnecessarily thick butt sections of 0.55/0.70, I'm going to give them a try.

    Al

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