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    Default Still no success at Pike Fly fishing!

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    Went onto the Wharfe yesterday (not too far from Otley) for a few hours casting dirty great big flies at what I thought were likely pike lies. Not a sniff. I was fishing lightly weighted flies, 4 or 5 inches long, plenty of sparkle, on a floating line. I've drawn a blank for my past 7 or 8 pike fly fishing expeditions now(rivers and stillwater). I tried slow retrieves, stripping, rolly poly etc. I will keep trying, but it's very frustrating! Anyone know where on the Wharfe is good for Pike. Anyone know if there are pike on the (Leeds ACA) Arthington stretch? And what am I doing wrong?!

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    Hi Mantog.

    You're doing nothing wrong. Location is the key.You'll find the Pike in spawning areas (at this time of the year). Look for shallow areas with a dark bottom. The dark bottom usualy indicates sunken vegetation and it also warms up quicker than lighter areas.

    Another thing to lookout for is shoals of Silver Fish. Find these and the Pike will not be far away.

    Try a braided sinking leader to turn your floater into a SinkTip. I use Airflo Salmon Braided Leaders with some success.

    Warmest Regards.

    Ernie.

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    really good advice from ernie all waters are differant some waters for me fish only first light and sunset but other waters fish all day long as ernie says location is the key thing find the siver fish and youll find the pike , take a note of where the coarse anglers are and keep an eye on them when they leave nip in to there swim and have a cast you may find pike have been atracted into the area by all the groundbaiting and silver fish moving in to feed

    but most important keep at it you will catch , what colour kind of flies are you using is the water coloured or clear

    mcfluffchucker
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    Thanks guys, I like the idea of using sinking leader.. Mcfluffchucker, the water is pretty clear at the moment (but not chalkstream-type clarity) I'm using various flies, some really flashy red/white/silver combos, others fairly drab olive colours with hint of green flash

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    Got to remember its still a bit cold and the pike are not as active as normal, if you could check how the bait and spinning anglers are doing it would give you a better indication that your methods/spot are at fault, if they are that is.

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    Well all the pike will be really deep down. My last outing there was only one fish caught, and all the fish were down to 40-50ft deep
    We got the deadbaits out and still no luck.
    Cromie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantog
    I've drawn a blank for my past 7 or 8 pike fly fishing expeditions now(rivers and stillwater). I tried slow retrieves, stripping, rolly poly etc.
    Jesus that is dire... still as stated location and conditions are probably your down fall. Don't lose faith you can always go back to the winter P&Ts.

    Throwing your shoulder around like a shotputter on steroids is never fun with gigantic pike flies, your nuts freezing with not even a sniff of a minnow let alone a pike. Keep the faith we've all been there.

    J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantog
    Hi

    Went onto the Wharfe yesterday (not too far from Otley) for a few hours casting dirty great big flies at what I thought were likely pike lies. Not a sniff. I was fishing lightly weighted flies, 4 or 5 inches long, plenty of sparkle, on a floating line.
    I don't know how deep the water you are fishing is but are you getting deep enough? I've always used a sinker for winter pike. It may be that you are fishing over pike lies but they are just not willing to come up for the fly.

    Not sure about getting the fly down 50 feet though

    Andy

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    Start off with a fast sinker with some dark coloured flies. You will catch fish.
    Cromie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantog
    Hi

    what am I doing wrong?!
    You are probably doing nothing wrong. It is all about location IMO! I walked along a stretch of the chalkstream River Beane at the w/e and the only fish I spotted were three pike estimated at 3, 4 & 6lb. All would have taken a fly I reckon but there was no fishing allowed on this stretch of the river at Waterford Meadows. My success in dirty water has always come when there are obstacles in the water to attract baitfish and subsequently pike with amounts of slack water in evidence. The pike can sit for hours before going for something (be it fly or bait fish) unless the fly is fished right under their nose. Dead and live bait is fished obviously in a different way.

    Have you read up on the fishing? Have you read any of David Wolsoncroft-Dodds in FF&FT magazine? Some excellent pointers here.

    But as stated it is location, location firstly.
    [COLOR="Blue"]"A fish seen is a fish nearly caught"[/COLOR]

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