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  1. #11
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    I lived in Asia for a decade and each year I came back home to visit England I was increasingly shocked at how huge everyone was becoming. I drop my daughter off for school some mornings, 90% of the other parents could be categorized as "fat as hell". Seriously, some have guts that hang down to their knees. They over-eat and never move. Its so easy to blame genetics but a high sugar, low nutritional diet with gallons of alcohol mixed in is the biggest culprit here.
    The fat acceptance movement is a disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easker1 View Post
    According to Michael Buerk Obese people should be allowed to die to save the NHS,is this acceptable from a broadcaster? he seems to blaming people who over indulge, easker1
    He's not blaming people for being fat, what he is saying is that they have a choice, and if they choose to be fat it's up to them.

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    As an ex smoker himself I wonder if he felt that way about the NHS then?
    Bit of a sanctimonious burk if you ask me.
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    Men and fish are alike, they both get into trouble when they open their mouths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easker1 View Post
    According to Michael Buerk Obese people should be allowed to die to save the NHS,is this acceptable from a broadcaster? he seems to blaming people who over indulge, easker1
    He was saying that, as a matter of fact, obese people die younger and therefore save the NHS the cost of expensive care for the elderly. He wasn't advocating that fat people shouldn't be treated.

    As mentioned above, he did say that if people over indulge that was their choice.

    What got peoples' goat was him saying that fat people weren't sick, they were weak. I think that was a bit rude and glosses over the fact that a minority of fat people are obese because of illness.

    I'm two stone overweight, in case you were wondering, but I would never say it was an illness. And yea, there's a degree of weakness there. I struggle to pass a donut.

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    Just completed the NHS BMI calculator. I should be the same weight i was at age 12 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shpeil View Post
    He was saying that, as a matter of fact, obese people die younger and therefore save the NHS the cost of expensive care for the elderly. He wasn't advocating that fat people shouldn't be treated.

    As mentioned above, he did say that if people over indulge that was their choice.

    What got peoples' goat was him saying that fat people weren't sick, they were weak. I think that was a bit rude and glosses over the fact that a minority of fat people are obese because of illness.

    I'm two stone overweight, in case you were wondering, but I would never say it was an illness. And yea, there's a degree of weakness there. I struggle to pass a donut.
    Yes, that was my reading of the article, or what I could find of it (I could not find the original). As always, it appears the media somewhat sensationalised and only selectively quoted.

    100 or more ago years ago, manual labour would have probably reduced your lifespan or caused illness. Now it's sedentary working and lifestyles, poor diet and over-eating. It's actually hard work to stay fit and a healthy weight. This can contribute to a reduced life expectancy and I think what Buerk was saying is we should accept that - we can't have it all ways.
    There is a local saying, referring to salmon and sea trout rivers, that these will not fish well "until the bracken is tall enough to hide your bicycle"

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    Buerk by name but berk by nature.


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    Oh But Michael Buerk was saying that, I normally struggle to pass a normal stool a Donut would be a bridge to far easker1

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    Left to die is a bit OTT - but at least I think XXXL clothes should be dearer

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    Is he not getting at the dilemma the NHS has with obesity in that the current and very expensive tolerance of over eating is just not working, so being nice about it is effectively allowing people to eat themselves to death.

    I hate the prejudice in what he says but I remember a time when people here feared ending up like American's, we are now there.

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