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    Default Re: be glad you aren't obese

    Quote Originally Posted by ohanzee View Post

    I hate the prejudice in what he says but I remember a time when people here feared ending up like American's, we are now there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streamerjunkie View Post
    I'm 6ft on the dot and weigh about 14.5st - according to my BMI at my last medical checkup, I'm obese...I found that quite hilarious as I'm in OK shape generally!
    Are you sure? I'm pretty much the same size (slightly shorter) and 14st 5lbs and I'm in the 'over-weight' category. I've got a bit of a gut to be honest and it's not great.

    However BMI is defintely a 'generic' indicator. It's used cause it's easy to use and gives you a rough idea of whether or not something's not great. I mean most people who are overweight know they are and that it's bad. I have friends who are massively overweight and they all like to whinge about BMI. It's not an accurate measure they say. What about rugby players they say? I'm like well you don't play do you? It's all fat from too much food and drink isn't it? Apparently I'm a bad person for pointing that out... I mean I don't care that they're fat, just don't complain about all the health issues you've got because of it. Just enjoy the pies.

    A mate of mine is a consultant Orthopedic surgeon so I've had chapter and verse about how even a little bit of excess weight puts significant extra strain on your joints. It adds up over time.

    Anyway back to the OP. I didn't see the comments, so I'm not going to comment. Apart from to say that the UK has a rapidly aging population that's significantly less healthy than it was (spead across the age range, I'd like to stress). So we've got less people earning money and more people needing complex expensive care. It's not a great long term prognosis. There's going to be a big change soon and I suspect what ever happens it's not going to be popular.

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    Default Re: be glad you aren't obese

    As I mentioned earlier, diet is only part of this issue. So many things have come together to make us a fat nation.

    If I look at my last job and the "average' person I worked with, they would drive at least an hour to get to work, sit at a desk all day, drive an hour to get back and be too knackered to do anything but watch TV. Then add on the ubiquitous donuts at work as it was always someone's birthday (women were the worst for this) and the drinking in the evening to wind down - quite a few I knew would get through a bottle of wine in an evening.

    It's a radical review of the way we live that's required or, as Buerk says, an acceptance that this new norm will result in fat unhealthy people who will get related health issues and an NHS unable to cope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by williegunn View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by icaughtafishonce View Post
    Are you sure? I'm pretty much the same size (slightly shorter) and 14st 5lbs and I'm in the 'over-weight' category. I've got a bit of a gut to be honest and it's not great.
    Back then I was probably more like 15.5st so I could have been just over the tipping point. To be honest I don't feel obese in the slightest. I know I have a gut and more than one chin but it isn't enough to stop me enjoying an appalling yet delicious diet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shropshire_lad View Post

    It's a radical review of the way we live that's required or, as Buerk says, an acceptance that this new norm will result in fat unhealthy people who will get related health issues and an NHS unable to cope.
    That sounds a bit more palatable, I think it just needs selling a bit better, I don't think a bit of exercise and more veg is really such a terrible demand to put on people that must realise its better to be healthy than obese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streamerjunkie View Post
    Back then I was probably more like 15.5st so I could have been just over the tipping point. To be honest I don't feel obese in the slightest. I know I have a gut and more than one chin but it isn't enough to stop me enjoying an appalling yet delicious diet!
    Can I ask how old you are? I'm 55 and had a pretty active life, I can still manage the odd summit, but age brings the realisation that without the activity earlier in life I'd be less active now, I think we need to help younger generations to realise that what they do and put in their body now is what they get when they reach middle age.

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    Some people don't like to work (not talking job here), they want an instant fix. A bit of pill popping but not at their expense and to keep their life style as is.
    With obese people you can see where the fat build up is on the outside of the body (well still within the skin ), some slimmer people can have a serious fat buildup but on the inside of the body, round vital organs which can stop the organs functioning properly. Arterial fat causes blockage of arteries and such, poor circulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly face View Post

    Some people don't like to work
    This would appear to be true, and genetic, teenagers get 'lazy' when they are growing fastest, quite normal, but some continue the habit into adulthood(child trauma can cause this) there was a documentary on tv some years ago about it, they filmed thin and fat people over 24 hours, the thin people moved constantly, fiddling and walking about using up calories continually, the fat ones literally preserved the calories by being very stationary, sat a lot and for longer, moving was an inconvenience for them, their preferred state was immobile rather than active.

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