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    I found some good loking stuff in a modern blender that staff had abused to death ,just the right colour !
    However my wire spools are circa 1970s(aprox) dont need more at the moment so I am fixed
    Andy Wren
    Still fishing but slowly!

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    Try "Maplin" just google it

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    I hope we aren't suggesting that the colour of the enamel (or the wire itself) is going to make any difference whatsoever to the fish catching properties of this fly? Can a trout even see 'red?' What part of the nymph does the red enamled wire suggest?

    I'm sure Frank just used red enamled wire because he had it laying around.

    Maybe, in between tending the banks and teaching a surprising number of people on this forum 'everything they know about fishing' he liked to listen to an old transistor radio. Then one day, the radio stopped working. He took it apart to try to fix it. Not being able to do so, he decided, "what the heck - might as well use this wire to hold down those wily pheasant tail fibres on that nymph I tied the other night."

    I suggest you do the same. Find some wire and hold the pheasant tail fibres in place with it.

    Mike
    Last edited by Mike N; 18-07-2006 at 12:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike N
    I hope we aren't suggesting that the colour of the enamel (or the wire itself) is going to make any difference whatsoever to the fish catching properties of this fly?
    I'm not sure but I seem to remember Ollie Edwards suggesting on one of his DVDs that the colour of the wire does indeed make a difference. I can't remember whether he was talking about the killer bug or the PTN though. It could have been both actually.
    Last edited by MarkH; 18-07-2006 at 01:40 PM.

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    Mark , he was certainly talking about the PTN re the wire colour, hence my original thread. I'm a totally notice river fly fisherman, but I'd say it might help......having said that the vast majority of PTNs are probably made with more modern wire and I'm sure they catch fish .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider
    Mark , he was certainly talking about the PTN re the wire colour, hence my original thread.
    Whoops! Just re-read your initial post and realised that mine was a little redundant. I should have refreshed my memory on the subject of the thread first.

    But on the same topic, sort of. I read a magazine article about tying the killer bug. The author suggested that the colour of wool wasn't critical. It was the colour of the wire, as a trigger point at the butt of the fly, that was of more importance. Now there's a turnaround eh? Chadwicks 477? Pah!
    Last edited by MarkH; 18-07-2006 at 02:45 PM.

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    No worries Mark. I've never fished that bug ( we have no grayling in Ireland unfortunately ) - not sure about the butt bit. I dont think Ollie Edwards mentioned it ..........and he is "the man" .............

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    Now THIS I can believe. A red butt does seem to be effective for grayling - the red tag for instance is very effective grayling fly in winter.

    But I'm still not sure that any fish can differentiate between red, brown, or copper. I think its more the hue thats important. But there may be some scientific info out there that contradicts me.

    If you are really keen on this, I recall that in a letter to the editor in a spring 2005 edition of FF&FT (march maybe?) the exact make, model, colour and guage (oh yes even the guage) of the wire used on a FS PTN was given.

    M

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