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Old 18-04-2017, 06:50 PM
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I've been trying to find out about how Paul Davison's garfunkel nymph patterns are constructed lately. I've got to the bottom of what the novel 'light capturing' bit is that makes the fly special - fibre optic cable The theory is that any light on one side of the fly is captured by the fibre and transmitted through to the other side and intensified. I totally get that bit, but what I cant weigh up is how the nymphs at the end the following youtube video on the eden are made up - from what I can see it seems to be a tungsten bead tied on Polyphaetis Nymph style, but with the pin or nylon being replaced with a fibre optic melted into a blob, but I could be wrong. The bit i'm struggling with is if this is how its done, where is the 'other' end of the fibre which would capture the light based on the theory above. Thoughts would be appreciated


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Guessing the other side is just the other side of the nymph. The rounding of the end is the only thing that really produces any sort of capture of extra light however it will only work if the light is from the other side, anything else and you may as well just have a reflective beat there. You can't invent extra photons out of nothing!

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Guessing the other side is just the other side of the nymph
Sorry, might be me being a bit thick - any chance of elaborating what you mean
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The flybox's in that video will give ohanzee nightmares for a month

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Sorry, might be me being a bit thick - any chance of elaborating what you mean
I imagine the "eye" is one side of a length of fibre optic cable and the cable is melted each end of a small length to form the eyes. This would then be figure 8 locked in place to make an eye on each side. Any light falling on the far side would then be reflected internally to the other side the fibre optic and emerge on the near side.

To get any sort of decent glow from the eye you would need quite a bit of light on the opposite side on the fly - remember that the fibre optic will not reflect what hits it on your side - those photons will be trapped and emerge on the opposite side of the fly.

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I think you might be talking about the nymph in the vice in the first half of the vid which is very straight forward - but Im confused by the one on test on the river at the end of the vid which is totally different by looks of it
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I think you might be talking about the nymph in the vice in the first half of the vid which is very straight forward - but Im confused by the one on test on the river at the end of the vid which is totally different by looks of it
Your right I was looking at the first one.

Do you have a decent still of the second? Thing that springs to mind is that the "tail seems to be made of something similar to polypropylene yarn. If whatever it is if fairly transparent or translucent then it will act like optical fibre, especially if its covered with silver mylar before any other dressing is tied in. The other side could be through the hole in the bead then melted into place to lock the bead and create the look.

Still wouldn't give much extra light at all though.

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The other side could be through the hole in the bead then melted into place to lock the bead and create the look.
I think your right about the melted end in the bead - like when using mono rather than a pin for Polyphaetis Nymph - but the other end locked down to the hook remains a mystery for now........
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If I was trying to do something like that I would put the yarn through the bead, melt the end then whip it onto the hook with something silver, tie off the silver and tease out the end of the yarn for the tail. I would then dress the fly normally over the top of the silver.

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Although thinking about it an easier way to get that effect would be to paint the inside of the bead with luminous paint before putting through some mono and melting that then tying in the bead by the mono coming through the back of the bead. Would probably give a MUCH brighter hotspot on the bead.

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