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Old 15-07-2017, 08:26 AM
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I started tying in my early teens, after seeing John Veniard & Geoff Bucknall demo'ing at a local fishing show in Chelmsford back in the late 60's. This was several years before Ollie came to the scene. Whilst not being a "southpaw" I to wind my thread in the opposite direction to most of you & have taught several 100's in various evening classes/club demo's etc to do the same, several of them have gone on to win various national tying comp's like the B & H etc.

Anyway, that aside I've had Ollie stay with me several times during the 90's & perhaps the early 0'ies when he came down to Bristol to talk & demo at various events for our local FDG. A couple of times he held weekend masterclasses, these were not long before his 1st book was published. I've seen him a few times since at various events like the BFFI etc & he still seems okay & able to tie, even after my cooking.

We don't have any river fisheries like those he has access to, unfortunately but if I were mobile & able to get to & be able to access to such places, it would be a shame not to at least try his patterns, be they more successful or not.
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Thank you all. I will tie some of them to learn improve my technique and (will fish them), though it sounds like they will need some simplifying and adapting if they are to find a regular place in my fly box.

I'll also look out for his videos on river fishing - they sound fascinating.

Cheers all - thank you for your insights.
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Thank you all. I will tie some of them to learn improve my technique and (will fish them), though it sounds like they will need some simplifying and adapting if they are to find a regular place in my fly box.

I'll also look out for his videos on river fishing - they sound fascinating.

Cheers all - thank you for your insights.
Quite a few of his tying and fishing videos can be found on YouTube
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I suspect if he was more cack-handed than he was he would have still been have been just as successful. You can catch trout on the most outrageous patterns in silly colours. It makes a nonsense of realistic.
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One fly that is easy to tie that we use here in the states that has been relatively successful is Davy Wotton's white tailed midge in various colors. Davy is an import to Arkansas from the UK, and has been very successful with tying, guiding on the White River, and on the lecture circuit. He is one of the main tiers at the annual Sowbug fly tying meet in Mountain View, Arkansas. Thanks UK.
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Many successful patterns still used today were introduced long before Oliver Edwards produced his offerings. I am very impressed by his tyings & the realistic impressions he has produced, however, I doubt whether the fish are concerned if it looks edible.
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In short I find that Ollie's patterns work very well, I admire his attention to detail and inventiveness in tying and his fishing skills but on the whole they're complicated to tie and too much faff for everyday fishing.

I don't tie many of his myself but I do carry a few commercially tied examples that I use on difficult fish, these include Baetis Nymph, Mohican Mayfly, Hydropsyche, and Footprint Dun.

The Mohican in particular is as good a mayfly pattern as you can get.
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For the best instructional videos and patterns check out Davie McPhail on YouTube. All of his work is easy to tie, great fishing patterns for the UK that will not fall apart after one fish.
After many years of fishing I've come to the conclusion that exact imitations do not work well at all. Most nymphing can most certainly be done with a good old Pheasant Tail of some kind of variation of size and colour.

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In short I find that Ollie's patterns work very well, I admire his attention to detail and inventiveness in tying and his fishing skills but on the whole they're complicated to tie and too much faff for everyday fishing.

I don't tie many of his myself but I do carry a few commercially tied examples that I use on difficult fish, these include Baetis Nymph, Mohican Mayfly, Hydropsyche, and Footprint Dun.

The Mohican in particular is as good a mayfly pattern as you can get.
This idea that you mostly can ignore complicated patterns except for the most difficult fish just promotes the idea they are special in some way.
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I have his book but honestly I have never found the time to tie any of his nymphs. I am of the opinion that nymph feeding fish are rarely that fussy over and above general size and shape. Having said that they could be fun to tie so I might give one or two a go at some point.

One pattern I do fish though is his mohican mayfly, it is by far the most effective mayfly dun pattern I have come across, more often than not fish take it at the first time of asking. I tie it more simply than he prescribes with only one hackle. If you batch tie the bodies and wings they are actually pretty easy to tie and well worth the effort imo.
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