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Old 13-01-2018, 05:32 PM
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Love it , how are you getting such well packed deerhair heads!
Thanks Andy, I use two bunches of hair.First one is stacked to even up the tips for the collar.Then the second bunch is spun in front of it....
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Wow - Fly tying porn at its finest!

I'm a massive muddler fan & I'm always drawn to any thread with "muddler" in the title - I wasn't disappointed!

The only downside is that the bar is set so high that this standard is well out of my league!!

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Simply gorgeous.
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I'm a massive muddler fan & I'm always drawn to any thread with "muddler" in the title - I wasn't disappointed!

The only downside is that the bar is set so high that this standard is well out of my league!!

Aye itís no secret I like a muddler too,the fish seem to agree. Thanks for the compliment Iíve had plenty practice thatís all...
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Thanks Andy, I use two bunches of hair.First one is stacked to even up the tips for the collar.Then the second bunch is spun in front of it....
So biggish bunch #2 , and then packed with something ,or am I missing something?
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Great muddler Jimmy Pearl always looks good with sooty imo.

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Do you dye your own feathers? I want to dye a half saddle sooty olive and wondered what the dye blend was.

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I use 13gn Veniards dark olive with 4gn Jacquard 639 jet black.

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So biggish bunch #2 , and then packed with something ,or am I missing something?
Two equal sized bunches Andy,about the thickness of a pencil in total for a size 10.
Spin the first bunch on ,then pull all the blunt ends back out of the way towards the hook bend...no packing,just pull the ends back.

Spin the second bunch on in front of the first one, in the space you have left....trim to requirements, job done....

I sometimes use a single bunch of hair for the whole operation,doing this will give you a heavier collar ,which might be desirable in some instances but I think doing it in two stages is a wee bit neater.

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Cheers. Olive dun is a new one to me, you did a good job with it.
My best success on feathers was medium or dark olive over dyed with olive brown and a touch of black. For dubbing I blend different colours and try to get close to Frankie McPhillips. All still works in progress.
I could be mistaken but I think the olive dun shade might be a fairly new one in the veniards range darwin.Iíd say it already has some black in it by the look of it in the bath...

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Pearl always looks good with sooty imo.

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I think so too Phil.....seeing it on your sooty dabbler recently was what inspired me to try it on this....
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Two equal sized bunches Andy,about the thickness of a pencil in total for a size 10.
Spin the first bunch on ,then pull all the blunt ends back out of the way towards the hook bend...no packing,just pull the ends back.

Spin the second bunch on in front of the first one, in the space you have left....trim to requirements, job done....

I sometimes use a single bunch of hair for the whole operation,doing this will give you a heavier collar ,which might be desirable in some instances but I think doing it in two stages is a wee bit neater.
Thanks Jimmy

Will give that a thrash once i have finished my febuary salmon fly bodging !
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Definitely agree with your thoughts on the orange tail and likewise with the black deer. Cracking fly.
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