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    ive noticed that different photos.
    of THE SAME FLY
    look really different to each other,
    if i posted just one it wouldnt show the true colour
    does anyone else have this problem?
    no adjustments were made to camera.
    any advise
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    eyes playing tricks or what?
    did you ever hear the saying
    "the camera never lies"?
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    Try posting in the photography section, maybe someone there will help...worth a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doobrysnatcher View Post
    ive noticed that different photos.
    of THE SAME FLY
    look really different to each other,
    if i posted just one it wouldnt show the true colour
    does anyone else have this problem?
    no adjustments were made to camera.
    any advise
    You would really need to show the two photos to illustrate what you are referring to.

    Bear in mind that if you have the camera on 'Auto' settings, it is going to guess about everything. With any two different shots, 'Auto' is going to make changes with any differences in light temperature, exposure levels and lots of other stuff. If I want two photos of a fly to be identical, I will use manual settings on the camera and sync all the processing stages. If you are not doing that, you are going to get different results.

    The biggest influence is white balance - maybe what you are calling 'true colour'. Your camera doesn't know what is white, and what is white depends on the temperature of the light. When set to auto, the camera has to guess, and it sometimes gets it wrong. If you don't correct for errors, you will get wonky colours. In many situations, there are enough clues for Auto to get it right. However, if you take close-ups of fancy-coloured flies, there are no good clues - only bad clues - and so if you use 'Auto' white balance on your camera when photographing flies, it's going to get it all wrong. Every time!

    If you take a photograph of something yellow or orange, with white balance on 'Auto', it's going to think you are using a tungsten light source (2850 K) and it's going to set white balance to 2850K, which is going to make the colour balance way too cold. Here is a photo of an orange buoy, with the white balance set to 'Auto'...


    Here is the same shot, with the white balance corrected to daylight (5500K)...



    Does that help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffy1 View Post
    Try posting in the photography section, maybe someone there will help...worth a try.
    You are right in that being the best place for such a question, Jeff. However, in fairness, if you look through all the photos of flies posted in the fly-tying section, loads of them have the incorrect white balance - most probably because they have been shot on 'Auto' white balance and not corrected in processing. So, I guess it wouldn't hurt to mention white balance in the fly-tying section.

    (That's if it is the issue here - yet to be identified... )

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    Flies are 3D and glint with different light angles.
    A static 2D image is simply never going to capture that, and nor should it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doobrysnatcher View Post


    ... any advise

    My immediate advice would be to read this guide to fly photography . Follow the advice there and you'll definitely get better pics. More accurate focus, more accurate white balance and maybe people will take more time to look at and appreciate your creations.

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    thanks for advice its a wheelie bin for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n Fishy View Post
    You are right in that being the best place for such a question, Jeff. ..........Col
    After the OP posted a 2nd time Col & the time difference, it was just a suggestion on my part thinking that he may well get a positive response there. Doubling his chances, so to speak.
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    whats the "op"?
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