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    Default Up eye vs down eye?

    About ten years ago I was pulled up by a forum member, in a nice way asking me why I used up eye hooks for some dries I had put up.
    Back then I always used up eye hooks, they came marked as dry Fly hooks in a Veniards tying kit I had purchased. I listened to what I was told and a few other forum tiers backed up the thought that up eye hooks were no longer used.
    That’s a long time ago, but I still wonder why ?
    To my tiny wee mind, if I’m fishing a dry and I lift off to recast surely I’m lifting the fly up from the water better with minimum disturbance.
    A down eye hook would head down into the water by nature of its shape before lifting off.
    Its always baffled me, I can’t say I catch more or less whichever I use, but an up eye just seems more sense to me.
    Your thoughts please gents.
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    Default Re: Up eye vs down eye?

    I personally have not used U/E hooks for about 30 years.I just can't see the need for them.

    Jim
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    Default Re: Up eye vs down eye?

    I don't mind either, I have both in my kit, easker1

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    Default Re: Up eye vs down eye?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3lbgrayling View Post
    I personally have not used U/E hooks for about 30 years.I just can't see the need for them.

    Jim
    What I need to know Jim is why not, what does a down eye do better?
    S.
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    Default Re: Up eye vs down eye?

    I saw an explanation of how the pull of leader worked on Up/Down eyed hooks and the down was better/more efficent.convinced me.

    Jim
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    Default Re: Up eye vs down eye?

    I think that the hooking power would be better on a down eyed hook, I tend to use down eyed hooks.
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    Default Re: Up eye vs down eye?

    Iíve also wondered about this. In traditional dry patterns, up eyed hooks made for a very pleasing effect and I canít see why they went out of favour. CDC emergers might look good on up eyes. You may well start a new fashion Steven!
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    Default Re: Up eye vs down eye?

    Quote Originally Posted by buzzer1234 View Post
    I think that the hooking power would be better on a down eyed hook, I tend to use down eyed hooks.
    I wonder why Tom, fish takes I lift does it not go in the top lip?
    S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaybeegee View Post
    I’ve also wondered about this. In traditional dry patterns, up eyed hooks made for a very pleasing effect and I can’t see why they went out of favour. CDC emergers might look good on up eyes. You may well start a new fashion Steven!
    B
    It’s an old fashion though isn’t it, I’m pretty sure back in the day most fly hooks were UE.
    S.
    Men and fish are alike, they both get into trouble when they open their mouths.

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    Default Re: Up eye vs down eye?

    Surely the reason for the down eyed fly is that it sinks the tippet making it less visible?

    When I started fly fishing I went through a similar pondering moment, posed it once on a fly fishing forum and was quickly corrected, it was my assumption that the little curl of tippet closest to the up eyed fly was out of the water..thus less visible, I thought that was the point of them, anyway I saw some logic in this as a beginner, logic that the experienced fly fishers soon beat out of me
    Last edited by ohanzee; 06-04-2019 at 08:30 PM.

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    Default Re: Up eye vs down eye?

    I like down eyed hooks because with my really awfull tieing the eyes are usually a bit clogged up with feathers and fluff and I find the down eyed a bit clearer hence easier to thread on my tippet bankside with my deteriorating eyesite .
    Simples really !
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