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    Western March Brown (Carnage variation)








    hook - Dai Riki 135 #12
    thread - Danville 6/0 tan
    core - 7lb mono
    tail - moose body hair (bleached)
    body/head - 1mm foam tan
    wing - Congo Hair white
    hackle - grizzly dyed tan


    Foamhead Skwala Stonefly (Carnage variation)








    hook - Dai Riki 135 #10
    thread - Danville 6/0 yellow
    core - 7lb mono
    tail - moose body hair
    body/head - 1mm foam olive
    wing - Congo Hair Baitfish Grey
    legs - medium rubber brown
    indicator - 2mm foam orange

    Since my friend in Missoula keeps me well-stocked with upland game pelts, I figured I could supply him with some stuff for the springtime hatches. Looks like the Bitteroot River has come down from the big spike on Wednesday so maybe he can find some fish looking up. A #12 may seem a bit big for March Browns but the fly has a pretty small footprint on the water and the fish down there are as dumb as posts anyway.


    Regards,
    Scott
    Last edited by scottp; 16-04-2019 at 12:10 PM.

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    Default Re: A Couple for Western Montana

    Exceptional work Scott. Can you tell me how you start and end those foam bodies on the mono core please? They are incredibly neatly formed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by liphook View Post
    Can you tell me how you start and end those foam bodies on the mono core please?

    Thanks. The original Carnage fly was created by Adam Trina, the owner of Montana Fly Company and it was made by wrapping the foam on a needle and transferring it to the hook. Here's a good SBS showing his technique
    Carnage Hopper Tutorial | Hopper Fishing Blog

    I started tying them like that but could never get consistent results and the foam bodies proved to be very fragile. Even so, the flies were effective and floated all day long, so I played around until I found a way to make them more durable; building the body on the mono core has solved the problem for me.
    They’re not that hard to tie; it just takes a little practice getting the tension right as you wrap the foam up and back down the core to create a tapered body. A gallows tool of some sort (I made my own) is not required but it makes it a whole lot easier and keeps your hands free to create the bodies. Here’s the sequence for a Yellow Wulff I tied last year.



    Tied here in single post style; change colors to suit your needs.


    hook - Dai Riki 135 #10
    thread - UTC 140 yellow
    core - 8lb Mason
    tail - moose body
    body - 1mm foam yellow
    wing - moose body
    hackle - yellow (1TBS Rit golden yellow, 1 cup water)


    put a loop in the mono




    mash barb, tie mono at 1/2 mark




    measure (2x hook length) some moose body; tie in/trim






    measure (hook length+) another clump; tie in facing forward over eye, trim butts






    hook the loop onto the gallows, wrap tail up the core and back






    tie in foam (about 1/3 hook gap in width)




    brush underbody with Super Glue, wrap foam up with touching wraps, increasing tension as you go




    brush on some more Super Glue and wrap back to the tie-in with overlapping wraps; tie off/trim, trim mono




    re-set hook angle, tie in hackle, take a few wraps in front of wing to set angle




    wrap hackle, tie off/trim, half hitch x 2, SHHAN








    trim underside if desired








    Regards,
    Scott

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    Superb post Scott QED! Many thanks for your
    time and effort sir!

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    Thank you Scott! I have got to tie up some of those stone flies before my next trip. Over here I could see the fish mistaking them for a damsel or dragon fly! I gave up on tying extended bodies on a needle due to inconsistencies and they seemed to come apart after just one or two fish but this seems a lot more durable. Some thing to add in the tin next to the Amy’s Ants!

    Take care

    Terry
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    Fantastic tying, love seeing something a bit different now and again.

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