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    Default Garry Atlantic Salmon Fly

    Garry (MINISTER'S DOG)




    Material

    Hook - SALMON HOOK SINGLE OR DOUBLE
    Tag- oval silver tinsel fine, yellow floss
    Thread - black
    TAIL- Golden pheasant crest
    Body - Black floss
    Rib- Silver oval tinsel
    Wing- Golden retriever hair or sparse bunch of golden brown calf tail or bucktail (yellow and red mixed together is fine)
    Collar- Blue hackle





















    Jocelin
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    Jocelin,

    Nice fly but, in Scotland, that pattern is known as a Hairy Mary.

    The pattern below is a simplified version of the fly we know as the Garry, sometimes called a Garry Dog or Minister's Dog, owing to the fact that the original fly was said to have been dressed, on Tweedside, using the hair from a minister's dog, a golden retriever by the name of Garry.

    Last edited by John Gray; 21-02-2008 at 08:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Gray
    Jocelin,

    Nice fly but, in Scotland, that pattern is known as a Hairy Mary.

    The pattern below is a simplified version of the fly we know as the Garry, sometimes called a Garry Dog or Minister's Dog, owing to the fact that the original fly was said to have been dressed, on Tweedside, using the hair from a minister's dog, a golden retriever by the name of Garry.

    The Hairy Mary and garry are 2 different patterns here in CAnada

    I also posted the HArry mary in another post

    I know about the golden retriever my fly also has it on I have 3 golden retreiver here at home the hair is from RUSTY

    HAiry MAry was first introduced from inverness Scotland in tthe 60's by John reidpath and is tied throat style and for the wing red brown fitch tail or red squirrel is used

    Here is the HAiry marry



    Here is the GArry or minister dog first tied by John wright the son of the noted fly tyer JAmes wright in the 40's and has yellow floss for the tag



    Jocelin
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOCELIN
    The Hairy Mary and garry are 2 different patterns here in CAnada

    I also posted the HArry mary in another post

    I know about the golden retriever my fly also has it on I have 3 golden retreiver here at home the hair is from RUSTY

    HAiry MAry was first introduced from inverness Scotland in tthe 60's by John reidpath and is tied throat style and for the wing red brown fitch tail or red squirrel is used

    Here is the HAiry marry



    Here is the GArry or minister dog first tied by John wright the son of the noted fly tyer JAmes wright in the 40's and has yellow floss for the tag



    Jocelin
    Yes, Jocelin, The Garry and the Hairy Mary are two separate and very distinct patterns. As I understand it, the wing of the original dressing of the Garry was composed of Golden Retriever hair over a few strands of red hair. I believe that the tail also included a slip of red ibis feather tied in over the golden pheasant crest feather. The hackle, tied beard style, was of dyed blue gallena (Guinea Fowl). Today, bucktail or squirrel, dyed yellow, is usually substituted for the Golden Retriever hair, as shown in my simplified example above.

    The Hairy Mary is one of our earliest hairwing patterns, dating back to around 1950, when it was in use on northern rivers such as the Ness and Conon. Its design is attributed, as you say, to Johnny Reidpath, an Inverness tackle merchant. In smaller sizes, the wing can be of red or brown squirrel but, particularly in larger sizes, it is most often of brown bucktail. The ribbing can be of gold or silver oval tinsel.


    Hairy Mary


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    I understood the Garry Dog to have blue red and yellow in it the flies above look more like hairy mary's or even a blue charm but not the Garry dog that i know.

    Then again im new to tying etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Gray
    The Hairy Mary is one of our earliest hairwing patterns, dating back to around 1950, when it was in use on northern rivers such as the Ness and Conon. Its design is attributed, as you say, to Johnny Reidpath, an Inverness tackle merchant. In smaller sizes, the wing can be of red or brown squirrel but, particularly in larger sizes, it is most often of brown bucktail. The ribbing can be of gold or silver oval tinsel.


    Hairy Mary


    The 'Hairy Mary' illustrated is dressed very much in the Dee low water/greased line style; as popularised by Arthur 'A.H.E.' Wood on his Cairnton beat.
    I believe his favourites were the Jeannie and the Logie.

    Here is a Garry in the same style.

    Garry
    Known also as the Garry Dog, Yellow Dog or Minister's Dog, reputedly the name originated in a Tweed tackle shop of the 1920's, where a visiting minister contributed some hair from the tail of his golden retriever named Garry, to aid the completion of a fly under construction on the premises.



    PiB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puss in Boots
    The 'Hairy Mary' illustrated is dressed very much in the Dee low water/greased line style; as popularised by Arthur 'A.H.E.' Wood on his Cairnton beat.
    I believe his favourites were the Jeannie and the Logie.

    Here is a Garry in the same style.

    Garry
    Known also as the Garry Dog, Yellow Dog or Minister's Dog, reputedly the name originated in a Tweed tackle shop of the 1920's, where a visiting minister contributed some hair from the tail of his golden retriever named Garry, to aid the completion of a fly under construction on the premises.

    PiB
    Strictly speaking, PiB, the Garry you illustrate above might best be regarded as a variant on the original pattern, as I added a blue tail slip in preference to the red ibis. I would say that the example below, having a shorter body and lighter dressing, is nearer the low water style than the one above.

    Garry - Low Water Dressing

    Last edited by John Gray; 21-03-2008 at 09:29 AM.

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