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Old 05-02-2011, 10:22 PM
 
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I'm not a comp fisher but have taken part in them in the past.

Something posted about the Lake of Menteith boat league and electric outboards not being allowed has got me thinking.

If competitions are to have an even playing field should there be more restrictions in the sport of competition fly fishing ?

Should restrictions be limited to things like the use of electric outboards etc., or should there be strict regulation on things like line densities, rod lengths, spare lines, flies etc,. etc,. What makes me ask the question is I reckon someone who can afford say 30 different spare spools has an advantage over someone who can maybe only afford 4.

What do folk think ?
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Apart from your last point BD.there are restictions on all other points.But maybe you have a point,I don't think so.but that's just me.

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Jim, I know what you're saying regarding rod lengths and line densities etc,. and maybe I didn't explain myself properly.

Should it be a case of, if you enter this competition, you can only use a 9'6" rod, have 3 spare spools max and they can only be for example di2, di4 and midge tip.

This isn't intended to have a go at anyone and I know there has got to be rules, it's just that how strict should the regulation be ?

Again, in the case of rods, a guy who can afford 10 and has a 9'6" rod which might be allowed in a certain competition would have an advantage over someone who maybe only had a 7' rod he used for river fishing.

Maybe someone would like to post a set of typical competition rules for discussion ?
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Where do you draw the line though? Reels with a maximum cost of 20 and a rod that costs no more than 35?
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Apart from your last point BD.there are restictions on all other points.But maybe you have a point,I don't think so.but that's just me.

Jim
Why?,if the fish are on or near the bottom the bloke with the DI7 has an advantage surely? ( just talking about lines here ).Ive never comp fished but i think they should be fished on a level playing field tackle wise

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Sorry Neil.The comp angler has enough restictions placed upon themselves,without any more equality guff.You might as well say we have to make allowances for folk who have to get the bus to the venue, rather than ones who have a car.Don't think that makes much sense.Or do you think it has merit.

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Sorry Neil.The comp angler has enough restictions placed upon themselves,without any more equality guff.You might as well say we have to make allowances for folk who have to get the bus to the venue, rather than ones who have a car.Don't think that makes much sense.Or do you think it has merit.

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Point taken i guess,but i still seems a little unfair on the guy with one rod two lines and a couple of flies when he's up against some other bloke with a truck load of gear

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Sorry Neil.The comp angler has enough restictions placed upon themselves,without any more equality guff.You might as well say we have to make allowances for folk who have to get the bus to the venue, rather than ones who have a car.Don't think that makes much sense.Or do you think it has merit.

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I'd agree that's probably going too far but to use an analogy for on the water regulation, you don't play football with up to 11 men on the field and a ball that can be no bigger than a certain size. It's a case of you field 11 men or you don't play and the ball has got to be regulation size or it's illegal. In tennis, the net has got to be so many inches high and in cricket you don't have up to three stumps, it's 3 stumps or nothing.

On the point Chris posted, ( and I can see where he's going ) but I think having a max value placed on a rod or reel is again too far but should it be the case that there is a regulation rod, reel and say 4 lines of given density for every competition or you can't enter.
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Hi guys i know i havnt been fly fishing all that long and never been in comps but surly its not down to how many rods or reels etc you got.
If someone only has say a #7 rod but knows what he is doing then surely he has a bit more of an egde over someone that doesnt know but with loads of gear.

I have a fair amout of coarse fishing tackle and when i used to fish matches some of the tackle some of the guys had was unbelievable and sometimes i came out better then them as i have alot of experience and know what im doing.

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I'd agree that's probably going too far but to use an analogy for on the water regulation, you don't play football with up to 11 men on the field and a ball that can be no bigger than a certain size. It's a case of you field 11 men or you don't play and the ball has got to be regulation size or it's illegal. In tennis, the net has got to be so many inches high and in cricket you don't have up to three stumps, it's 3 stumps or nothing.

On the point Chris posted, ( and I can see where he's going ) but I think having a max value placed on a rod or reel is again too far but should it be the case that there is a regulation rod, reel and say 4 lines of given density for every competition or you can't enter.
Sorry BD. How many men can the ref send of before the game is abandoned in football.
anyway,I thought the no Drougue rule was stupid in Scotland (allowed in England/wales),so I went to the meetings and opposed it for several years.they are now allowed.So if you and Neil.want to get some rule changes imposed.do the same as me and put your head above the parapett at AGM's(you have to be a member mind you )
They will listen to your thoughts and decide in a democratic manner.Instead of you just Blowing off steam on here.

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