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Old 08-07-2011, 04:26 PM
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Hi all,


I'm interest in learning how to fly fish, been saltwater fishing for the past few years. I ran into this video while looking at fly fishing on YouTube

YouTube - ‪Episode 3: Colorado River Cutthroat Trout in Southwest Colorado‬‏

Do any of ya'll how or where I can get more information on how to do the cast at 48 seconds in the video?


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Old 08-07-2011, 04:31 PM
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It's the overhead cast and also the side cast. The overhead cast you will use most when fly fishing.

Here's one to get you started with the overhead cast.

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Old 08-07-2011, 04:36 PM
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There are plenty of casting instructors that use this forum,if you let them know your location I'm sure one of them would be able to help you

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Old 08-07-2011, 04:39 PM
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It looks to be an oval cast sometimes called a Belgian cast.
A very easy cast to perfect, if you look closely there is no pause it is a continuous motion cast where the fly goes under the tip of the rod then over in an oval shape. The cast is generally used for heavy bugs etc to keep them away from the rod . Any good Instructor will be able to show you or just give it a go,you may be surprised how easy it is. Google belgian cast.
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Old 08-07-2011, 06:42 PM
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I just thought it looked like fairly ordinary overhead casting which was coming out to the side a bit. Nowt special there
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If you are new to fly fishing, the best value for money you will get is to get some casting lessons. (and if like most of us you get the "I need more tackle" addiction, it is a drop in the ocean ) At first sight it seems a bit pricey and you wonder if you really need to spend it. But learning from books and DVDs is not always successful and once you've developed some bad habits, they can be difficult to unlearn.
Casting instructors can also give you some useful tips on what tackle to get, where and how to fish etc.

Good luck, anyway and welcome to the forum.
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I just thought it looked like fairly ordinary overhead casting which was coming out to the side a bit. Nowt special there
Sorry to disagree but have a look at his casting hand,looks like it is doing a oval shape and not pausing as it would in an overhead/side cast.


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Thanks for the replies guys! I live in the Washington DC/Maryland and is wondering if anyone know any fly fishing spots are here?
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It could be but it is such a rare cast. Given the general standard of casting in the video i think he is just trying to get it out there
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I believe Brian has it right. It is a constant tension "Belgian" cast but the oval is tight on the backcast.

Here is a video that shows the cast:


Here is a description:

http://www.flycastingschool.com/The_Belgian_Cast.pdf

One disadvantage of this cast is that since the rod goes in an oval, it introduces a twist into the line. Also studies have shown that the oval cast is harder on the elbow and wrist than the overhead style of casting.

http://www.working-well.org/articles/pdf/Fishing.pdf

"A study looking at pain ratings in relationship to casting style found no significant difference between casting style and shoulder pain. However,

Elbow pain was significantly less in casters who used multiple casting styles.

Elbow pain was significantly less for the overhead style compared with the elliptical style.

Wrist pain was significantly less for those who used the overhead style instead of either the elliptical or sidearm styles.

Wrist pain was significantly less for those who used multiple styles."

The take home lesson is that the overhead casting motion is better ergonomically than elliptical or sidearm casting for the elbow and wrist. The shoulder being a ball and socket joint is designed for rotation so none of the casting styles was any worse than the other for shoulder pain. I think the reason for elbow pain is that the elbow is a hinge joint and is designed to flex and extend in a single direction that is best suited to an overhead motion that places no rotational stress on the elbow.

Similarly, the wrist and the muscles of the forearm are strongest in varus and valgus flexion. That is why we hold a hammer and pound with a karate chopping motion rather than with the palm facing forward in a patting motion. Any motion of the wrist that requires a rotation using the patting motion will stress the wrist.

However, pain can still occur if you are locked into a single casting style, so mix it up.
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