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    Default Re: River acid spill leaves fish dead

    Quote Originally Posted by casts_by_fly View Post
    It will still be another 10 years before it is back to normal though.
    Therein lies the horror of this incident.
    20 years ago river was dead, due to industrial waste pollution. It ran milky white!
    Lots of dosh was spent improving and cleaning river, to the point that the last couple of years sea trout and salmon were evident.
    All of a sudden a total wipe out has occured, and even now, a full week later no-one knows what with, and how incident happened!
    Local authorities are still advising no one goes in water, sepa have couple of paragraphs on their web site stating any concerned members of public contact their local authority for advice, scottish water have f all in terms of info.
    Will be a long, long time before this river recovers, and right now seems they are getting away with it!
    regards
    bert
    Last edited by aenoon; 11-07-2011 at 06:57 PM.

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    Default Re: River acid spill leaves fish dead

    There are two hushed up recordings of sheep dip, from the same farm, entering the Clyde causing fish, and invertebrate kills, a few years back. SEPA will give you the run around in an attempt to keep the information from you though. There was no public information warning issued there.

    Just happens it was in the same area originally affected by American Signal Crayfish. Two incidents close to each other, from the same source. Very suspicious that is.

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    Default Re: River acid spill leaves fish dead

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyFromLaw View Post
    SEPA will give you the run around in an attempt to keep the information from you though.
    In this instance aint sepa giving us the run around.
    is scottish water.
    scottish water did not notify sepa about incident till close of business last monday.
    they(scottish water) had by that time spent a good part of sunday, and all of monday trying to clean up the mess (hide evidence???).
    sepa can only publish the facts as released to them by scottish water, which at the moment is nada, nil, nought!!
    is scottish water who are the criminals here.
    not sepa.
    regards
    bert

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    Default Re: River acid spill leaves fish dead

    Quote Originally Posted by aenoon View Post
    In this instance aint sepa giving us the run around.
    is scottish water.
    scottish water did not notify sepa about incident till close of business last monday.
    they(scottish water) had by that time spent a good part of sunday, and all of monday trying to clean up the mess (hide evidence???).
    sepa can only publish the facts as released to them by scottish water, which at the moment is nada, nil, nought!!
    is scottish water who are the criminals here.
    not sepa.
    regards
    bert
    I hear what you are saying, but I'm trying to give you the heads up that SEPA don't always give the truth. You say Scottish Water are saying nothing, and SEPA are saying Scottish Water didn't call them out until Monday.

    Let me assure you that SEPA would NOT have attended on the Sunday as their stand-by officers are based in Perth, and they do not go out until the next normal business day. That is a directive they have in place. They just don't go out.

    Quite designed for the evidence to flush away.

    If you think I'm havering, phone and ask SEPA if their stand-by officers will attend a weekend/out of our hours incident.

    How's about a recent letter I have stating that SEPA attended a fish kill report only for them not to find any dead fish. Then with a little further pressing it transpires that no one actually went out, because the truth is simply that they don't go out, until the next business day. Furthermore, on meeting a senior area manageress from SEPA, regards this incident, she told me to my face that she had listened to the telephone call I made reporting the incident, and she was adamant that I never mentioned anything about dead fish. I asked her what reason did she imagine I had made the call? When I asked if I could myself listen to the call transcript, the recording was unavailable.

    Perhaps Scottish Water didn't report it. But if you had witnessed this pollution yourself, and made a weekend call to SEPA, they WOULD NOT have responded until the Monday anyway.

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    Default Re: River acid spill leaves fish dead

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyFromLaw View Post
    Perhaps Scottish Water didn't report it. But if you had witnessed this pollution yourself, and made a weekend call to SEPA, they WOULD NOT have responded until the Monday anyway.
    Point i am making is sepa were not advised about incident till late monday!
    close of business monday.
    that gives scottish water another 12 hours to flush away evidence.
    o,k you may have an axe to grind with sepa, but the main point in this incident is that the big utillities provider is giving the agency the runaround.
    not the other way around.
    regards
    bert

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    Default Re: River acid spill leaves fish dead

    There are a couple of stories going round about the incident.

    1. Sulphuric acid entered the Devon after a feeder burn runnig from the Glendevon water works got contaminated.

    2. There was a discharge of "poor quality" water from Castlehill ressy that de-oxyginated the stream (something to do with algae and water coming from the wrong level).

    I fished the Devon above Vicars Bridge on the Saturday before the "incident" took place. There were plenty of fish about. I've since heard that there are still plenty of fish rising at Vicars Bridge and further down stream. The Salmon and sea trout can't get any further up the river than the falls above Vicars Bridge so with luck the migratories will not be affected.

    Hopefully the fish kill has been limited to the very upper reaches.

    Seems to me that Scottish Water have messed up either way. Hopefully the river will recoiver quickly....

    Norm
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