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  1. #11
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    Default Re: help with nymph fishing please

    Well done for dropping the lures and starting proper fly fishing. There's a couple of good points in the responses above. If you able to fish in clear water fisheries you will often see a fish take and spit your nymph before you feel it at the hand and many fish that you do feel and hook were self hooked anyway.

    You need to be trying to get a slightly earlier indication of a take and unless you can see the fish take the fly this will usually be by watching the line at the furthest point and looking for anything that is not consistent with what you are doing with it. It might be a pull away, a straightening of a curve, or just the line stopping but you need to be tightening immediately on all of them.

    I think the other point is that any fly and certainly flies like damsel nymphs are for the most part just lures unless they are fished when damsels are active in the same way as damsels would move.

    The final point is that if you are fishing small flies you need to scale down the diameter of the tippet and droppers to the appropriate diameters for the size of fly and for No.16 and 18 you need to be using something like 0.005" or 0.125mm diameter that is equivalent to 6x. If you use thicker line the fly will appear "wooden" and unatural and the fish may be hesitant in taking it properly.
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  2. #12
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    Default Re: help with nymph fishing please

    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
    What line weight are you using? If you are getting takes but are failing to hook up there is the possibility that the fish are letting go before you are able to react. One of the main causes for this is that they are feeling the drag of the fly line and are spitting the fly out. You feel the take, but by the time you have reacted to it the fish have ejected the fly and have gone on their way. Trout can spit a fly out faster than you can blink if they detect a wrong 'un.

    If you're using 7 or 8 weights which are the usual line sizes, try scaling down to 6 or 5 weights and you'll soon notice the difference.
    this is whats happening to a tee !!!!!
    i already use a 6wt hardy demon with a rio gold floating line,i will try a smaller diameter tippet though.
    some great advice gents,much appreciated,time to put the advice into action !
    many thanks
    paul

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    Default Re: help with nymph fishing please

    Funny thing is I can watch a quiver tip quite happily when I'm coarse fishing in the winter, but no way can I watch that loop of flyline. This is probably because I'm always watching the water to see what is going on around me ready to react if a fish rises in casting range.

    However, I find that the ball of my left forefinger is really sensitive when it comes to detecting those subtle little "heavier than water" takes. I'm left handed and after casting I fig 8 with my right hand with the line passing over the left forefinger. Works for me, but does take practice.

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    Default Re: help with nymph fishing please

    Paul
    One other person has suggested that you watch a 'swing tip ' of line from the rod to a foot above the water.
    This is great advice as it gives the trout the slack to take the fly confidently.
    And you get the time to react.

    If you find the fish still drop the fly increase the size of the line 'swing tip ' by holding the rod tip two or three feet above the water.
    Give the fish as much slack as they need to take the fly without feeling the drag of a tight line.

    Just try it and be amazed at the confidence it gives the fish.
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    Default Re: help with nymph fishing please

    thanks again gents.
    i am to put all this great advice into practice thursday when i have a cast and blast day at meon springs(in aid of macmillan cancer support).
    whilst the air around the lake will resemble a ww 1 dogfight with lures i will be attempting the subtle art of nymph fishing with the techniques suggested.
    paul

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    Default Re: help with nymph fishing please

    Quote Originally Posted by prnw02 View Post
    thanks again gents.
    i am to put all this great advice into practice thursday when i have a cast and blast day at meon springs(in aid of macmillan cancer support).
    whilst the air around the lake will resemble a ww 1 dogfight with lures i will be attempting the subtle art of nymph fishing with the techniques suggested.
    paul
    Dont forget mate we are fishing as a 3 man team lucky its just for fun

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    Default Re: help with nymph fishing please

    Mike

    Is that F1 or F2?

    I don't do "bungs". They are rather shady deals done by football managers in motorway service car parks and involve brown paper bags of dirty cash. I DO, however, use indicators when the conditions warrant it.

    I had it in mind to visit the concrete holes this weekend. I hope TW haven't started pumping water in from the Thames yet as that may affect the fishing.

    Let me know where you are going to be and if I'm up there I'll drop by.

    Bob

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