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Old 20-11-2016, 09:55 PM
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I usually keep to a leader of about 12' for most of my fishing on our 20 acre club lake.

I find I don't get in too much of muddle with that and I am just beginning to fish with two droppers rather than just one!

Is that OK or should I be looking at increasing the length of the leader for certain situations?
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I'd stick to whatever your comfortable with but 12' is maybe a tad too short when using two droppers.
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Old 20-11-2016, 10:51 PM
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Don't go silly, increase by a foot or so until your comfortable with it then increase again. You can happily use three droppers on a twelve foot leader if there is a ripple on the water. Try it, you'll soon find out when to use three flies and on what length leader. I 've heard many claim to use 20ft+ leaders but in 40+yrs, I've never seen anyone actually cast and straighten one.
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I 've heard many claim to use 20ft+ leaders but in 40+yrs, I've never seen anyone actually cast and straighten one.
Really? That's a bit of a surprise!
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Old 21-11-2016, 04:58 PM
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Agree with Bumble especially as your club water is quite small. When fishing wet flies I usually just have 2 flies on a nine and a half to ten foot leader ( bank fishing ). I have read about folk using much longer leaders and 4 flies when boat fishing competitions on the big waters but I,ve never seen anyone using these long leaders. Stick to what is comfortable for you.
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I've heard many claim to use 20ft+ leaders but in 40+yrs, I've never seen anyone actually cast and straighten one.
Come on down to Farmoor next May and I'll find half a dozen anglers who do just that all the time.

I teach quite a lot of beginners and they don't know how long the leader should be. Why should they - they've never cast a fly before.

When we get to actually fishing I stick a 12' leader on and they just get on with it. They don't think about how long the leader is and are they capable of casting it - they just do it.

So, that tells me that leader length is a state of mind rather than a physical difficulty.

Next, on a stillwater and particularly a reservoir, how often in a day's fishing to you need to cast precisely, and by that I mean drop the fly within 20" of where a fish rises? We assume that the rise is the centre of a circle 40" across and that is the diameter of the circle used in casting competitions. Do that consistently and you need to stop fishing and enter the competitions.

Finally, the fish rises and you drop your fly within that 20" zone. Do you get a take? Maybe, but most likely not because by the time you have done that he has long gone. Drop the fly 10' upwind and you'll most likely get an offer.
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Drop the fly 10' upwind and you'll most likely get an offer.
Do trout tend to move upwind?

Predicting where risers are heading comes up a lot for me, in most cases I find they are on a feeding circuit, and come back round after a while, between times they seem to move randomly all over the damn place.
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Not always upwind Bob although that is usually the case, on the ressie I fish and Bumble fishes it too - the fish have been a bit strange the latter end of the year sometimes moving with the wind to feed, you do need to cast a bit in front though like you say and it usually depends on how quick I am to respond to the rise as usually I have a bit of line out and the rise usually happened in front of me or if fishing close the rise will usually be further out (typically my luck) so I usually cast six foot in the fishes path if quick enough or a bit further if not.
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I didn't say it couldn't be done, just that I've never seen it done. I have met anglers who claimed to be able to it but not when I was watching, most of the time they had to retrieve line to get contact with their flies, that is when they weren't trying to unravel a knotted ball of nylon.
Used to fish the competitions and won a few for accuracy and distance but the novelty wore off.
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I didn't say it couldn't be done, just that I've never seen it done. I have met anglers who claimed to be able to it but not when I was watching, most of the time they had to retrieve line to get contact with their flies, that is when they weren't trying to unravel a knotted ball of nylon.
Used to fish the competitions and won a few for accuracy and distance but the novelty wore off.
Like the tv programme used to say, "Come on down!" However, in the interest of fairness the price of the day ticket is on your wallet.
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