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Old 25-07-2017, 06:22 AM
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Sounds like you will be in the Basque country or Béarn the way you describe the rivers. BE CAREFUL!!!! Every year there are accidents on the lower stretches as those are very wide, deep and treacherous. That said I think you will find that the smaller upper reaches may be more productive especially for a beginner as the features are easier to read plus the smaller rod will be well suited for this environment. As others have said, go with an SKB or Chinese reel and a barrio or SKB line but invest in a good wading staff as it can save your life especially in the boulder infested rivers of the Pyrennes which can have a very strong flow of water. If you decide to fish the lower reaches of the gaves then wind can be an issue so a five or even a six weight might not be a bad idea although a seven would be over gunning it.

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Old 25-07-2017, 06:29 AM
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I've fished in the Pyrenees and found most of the UK flies work just as well abroad, if there's a local fishing shop have a rummage through the fly bins. Mountain streams and the rivers below do have a tendency to flood quickly, notoriously in France, have an escape route planned when you're wading and if the river rises, even just a little, get out! Summertime fishing in France, I wouldn't bother heading out until the earliest 6pm
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The first thing I would ask is where are you located? It would be a good idea to find a big river locally or within an hours drive and have a trip with a guide to simply familiarise yourself with the basics, including tackle, wading, watercraft and the tackle you will need.

Apart from the wading you also need to find out if their are any bylaws including the one which may ban the use of felt soled wading boots which is becoming more common, meaning you may need to consider vibram soles with tungsten studs.

Tackle wise big rivers are generally affected by the wind however my understanding French rivers can be notoriously hard and can demand long range nymphing with long leaders which is quite a specialised method, (dynamic nymphing by George Daniel is a very good book to read).

Without seeing the rivers it's difficult but from what you've already said you may need a 10ft 3# nymphing rod, (will also cover light mid range dry fly work), and possibly a 9ft 5# which will cover most big river work.

Nymphs wise stick with simple pheasant tails and hares ear nymphs in a variety of weights, (2-4m tungsten beads).

Dry flies can be a conundrum however a few klinkhammers, parachute adams, F-flys, sedges and emergers in CDC and deer hair in sizes 14-22 will cover most venues.

If you're going to be fishing blind, having never seen the river, klink and dink is an excellent method to master and comes into it's own when searching and exploring new rivers.

Either way, river fishing is addictive and for me much more engaging than still water fishing. It's a sharp learning curve but most skills are transferable. It won't be cheap but once you're hooked that'll be it.

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The first thing I would ask is where are you located? It would be a good idea to find a big river locally or within an hours drive and have a trip with a guide to simply familiarise yourself with the basics, including tackle, wading, watercraft and the tackle you will need.

Apart from the wading you also need to find out if their are any bylaws including the one which may ban the use of felt soled wading boots which is becoming more common, meaning you may need to consider vibram soles with tungsten studs.

Tackle wise big rivers are generally affected by the wind however my understanding French rivers can be notoriously hard and can demand long range nymphing with long leaders which is quite a specialised method, (dynamic nymphing by George Daniel is a very good book to read).

Without seeing the rivers it's difficult but from what you've already said you may need a 10ft 3# nymphing rod, (will also cover light mid range dry fly work), and possibly a 9ft 5# which will cover most big river work.

Nymphs wise stick with simple pheasant tails and hares ear nymphs in a variety of weights, (2-4m tungsten beads).

Dry flies can be a conundrum however a few klinkhammers, parachute adams, F-flys, sedges and emergers in CDC and deer hair in sizes 14-22 will cover most venues.

If you're going to be fishing blind, having never seen the river, klink and dink is an excellent method to master and comes into it's own when searching and exploring new rivers.

Either way, river fishing is addictive and for me much more engaging than still water fishing. It's a sharp learning curve but most skills are transferable. It won't be cheap but once you're hooked that'll be it.

Best of luck.
Thanks for all the tips guys. I will be in the languedoc fishing the Orb and the Jaur and tributaries. The guy who moved to portugal was a worm fisher not fly. There is indeed a local guide I could use, however I was hoping to avoid the cost.
Early mornings and late evenings in August?

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Thanks for all the tips guys. I will be in the languedoc fishing the Orb and the Jaur and tributaries. The guy who moved to portugal was a worm fisher not fly. There is indeed a local guide I could use, however I was hoping to avoid the cost.
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Like I said in my post after 6pm would be a good time to start

Is the local guide Sebastien Salavin?

DaveB I thought there was a new technique I was missing out on
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Like I said in my post after 6pm would be a good time to start

Is the local guide Sebastien Salavin?

DaveB I thought there was a new technique I was missing out on
Sebastian lives in the next village...seems to be well regarded


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I too I have made the river transition this year and I have been given some sound advice from members on the forum which has greatly helped.

Advice from one novice to another. Treat each trip as an opportunity to learn ,learn ,learn. I often make 99 mistakes and get it right once. However the more mistakes I make the more I learn. And the one time I do get it right is vastly more exciting and satisfying than anything I've experienced on a still water.

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