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  1. #1
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    Default Fly Fishing Snobbery

    It's very apparent on the forum that some anglers class themselves as better people on what they fish for or the methods they use.
    Mostly it's just banter, but it can often lead to what can only be classed as bullying. How ridiculous this is, does it matter? Really? We're all in this wonderful sport together, and can learn so much from each other.
    I enjoy fishing for Stocked Rainbows, Browns and other variants that owners wish to stock, Wild Stillwater trout, stocked or wild river trout, Grayling, Pike, Coarse fish or Sea fish. I'm also very interested in starting to fish for Sea Trout and Salmon. In other words, I'm a fly fisherman.....
    Please respect each other, because we're in this wonderful sport together, and there is a lot of people in this world that would rather that we were not.
    Rich.

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    I can see what you're saying but I wouldn't like to think it true. Sure we get some heated debates and differences of opinion but that's the same with many things as you go through life. I hope once any heated debate is over with, those involved still have mutual respect for each other.

    It's very true that a number of members who reside here have a mastery of the sport that others would like to have and a greater knowledge of methods and techniques. Some are just born gifted, but in my experience they are more than happy to share their talents with others.

    Some love to own the real top end gear and there's nothing wrong with that. I have a very good friend who generally is as tight as a ducks ar$e, but when it comes to his fly fishing money is no object. You see, it's his passion in life. He lives for it.

    I buy what I can afford, although even when I had more disposable income, I never went for the top end stuff. If it was reliable and gave me pleasure when used that was enough for me. And guess what - I caught just as many fish as anyone else. I've learned that fish don't really care who's on the end of the rod or how much that rod cost.

    Obviously in any group of people you always get one or two a-holes and idiots, but people on here are smart enough to see through them. My view is that you should never to argue with an idiot. They just drag you down to their level and beat you on experience.

    Overall when we're not actually out fishing, this is probable the second best place to be.
    The wonder of the world The beauty and the power.The shapes of things, their colours, lights and shades. These I saw.
    Look ye also while life lasts....BB.

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    Default Re: Fly Fishing Snobbery

    Fishing is fishing IMO, different branches, different aspects and different techniques. There's a certain read across in habits, watercraft and skill sets but each has their attributes unique to that branch or method.

    I find some anglers very helpful and more than willing to go out of their way to help others, some who only care about their own interests and some who simply aren't bothered and just go fishing regardless of what they catch because they simply enjoy being out and about on the bank.

    There are some characters but that's all part and parcel of fishing.

    Regarding tackle, although I prefer to use good tackle if it came to hiring a 20 rod on holiday, I'd be grateful for what I could get if it gave me a day on the bank. We all like to use good tackle but the truth is, if it's fit for purpose it will catch fish.

    I don't worry to much about methods because if it catches fish I want to figure out how it works, so I can increase my knowledge and skill sets, however if I decide I don't like the method or the ethics of that method, that's my personal choice and shouldn't influence the choice of others unless it's a very controversial method that affects fish welfare.

    Lifes too short to get wrapped up in the politics of the sport, most people should just get on with it and enjoy their time on the bank.

    I've fished with some very good anglers/people off the forum and I'd recommend to anybody new to the forum, getting out with other anglers, learning new waters and techniques as it's a great way to learn and fish venues you wouldn't normally get the chance to fish.
    Last edited by dave b; 18-08-2017 at 06:39 AM.

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    Default Re: Fly Fishing Snobbery

    I believe Spaf's comments above are on the mark. I also believe you will find an opinionated git or a dozen on almost any forum for any interest. That's the nature of people. Then too there are the occasional troll trying to stir people just for the fun of it, but good moderators are quick to recognise and ban them. All in all, those who I've seen posting on this forum are an easy going bunch and I don't think anybody takes themselves too seriously.
    I sincerely hope that there isn't any 'snobbery' on here. To date, I haven't experienced witnessed any and I lurked for quite a while before actually joining in.

    As for kit, I am quite happy with my Greys and Wychwood kit. They work and are, to me at least, good value for the money. Given that my first fly rod and reel back in the 1970s was basically a two for tuppence bit of kit, I'm not hard to satisfy.

    I can't - or won't - afford an Orvis top of the line rod, but won't begrudge those who can and will.
    Last edited by anzac; 18-08-2017 at 06:47 AM.

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    Default Re: Fly Fishing Snobbery

    Actually richfish is right up to a point. There is a grouping who fish predominantly for wild brown trout who consider that their aspect of the sport is superior to all others, and who will only fish for rainbows under duress.

    It is not as bad as it used to be certainly, but it is still there.

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    Default Re: Fly Fishing Snobbery

    I do believe that there are a number of "Fly Fishermen" who look down on coarse anglers seeing it as an inferior method of catching fish.

    I would like to see some of that type run a stick float between weed beds on a flowing river or fish a 14 metre pole close to an island for carp into double figures.

    But most are decent guys out for a day's enjoyment.

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    Default Re: Fly Fishing Snobbery

    Must say I am far more worried about pollution, abstraction, antis and a general public whose views of the lives and deaths of wild creatures owe more than they should to Walt Disney and the BBC wildlife unit than I am about how other anglers choose to fish, with what kit and for what target species. All you can reasonably ask is that anglers follow the fishery rules, don't do anything to spoil another's fun, and don't behave in a way that brings our sport into disrepute. Apart from that, in the immortal words of Arthur Daley..."my son, the world is your lobster".
    "In wine there is wisdom. In beer there is strength. In water there is bacteria." - German proverb
    JH based near Southampton

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    Default Re: Fly Fishing Snobbery

    I'm all for the angling brotherhood just as long as it doesn't include people who fish with blobs

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    Default Re: Fly Fishing Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by young jon View Post
    I'm all for the angling brotherhood just as long as it doesn't include people who fish with blobs
    I'm out then
    i would like to agree with you but then we would both be wrong...

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    Default Re: Fly Fishing Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by linkledger View Post
    I do believe that there are a number of "Fly Fishermen" who look down on coarse anglers seeing it as an inferior method of catching fish.

    I would like to see some of that type run a stick float between weed beds on a flowing river or fish a 14 metre pole close to an island for carp into double figures.

    But most are decent guys out for a day's enjoyment.
    I think some of the most skilled anglers come from the match scene. They can't choose where they'd like to fish so they have to work hard to catch anything at all. But they can often winkle a few fish out of any swim they draw.

    It may just take a slight adjustment to the float, or a different float, a slightly different shotting pattern, rate of loose feeding and any number of other minor changes. They always need to be thinking and working at it in order to achieve success.

    I think Dave b might agree with this.
    The wonder of the world The beauty and the power.The shapes of things, their colours, lights and shades. These I saw.
    Look ye also while life lasts....BB.

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