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    Quote Originally Posted by Wee Jimmy View Post
    I’m also more interested in diameter than breaking strain.You should try measuring all your leader material with a micrometer ,it’s a real eye opener.Very few of the brands I use are as stated on the label.
    Hi Jimmy i've only measured 3 types "3rd being today" maxima I found to be within 100th of a mil, rio was absolutely spot on, Berkley,s 0.22 is actually 0.256, tbh I thought the labels would've been fairly accurate purely on the 2 previous I'd measured, lesson learned thanks Jimmy.
    Al

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    Quote Originally Posted by speytime View Post
    Hi Jimmy i've only measured 3 types "3rd being today" maxima I found to be within 100th of a mil, rio was absolutely spot on, Berkley,s 0.22 is actually 0.256, tbh I thought the labels would've been fairly accurate purely on the 2 previous I'd measured, lesson learned thanks Jimmy.
    Al
    Like I said Al,itís a bit of an eye opener.Ive got some Maxima ultra green in 6lb and 3lb. The 6lb has a stated diameter of 0.22mm,itís actually 0.26mm.The 3lb says 0.15mm on the label but measures at 0.19mm. The pre stretched nylon that Iíve been using for years for all of my dry fly fishing is also guilty of claiming that itís thinner than it actually is.....though not as wide of the mark as the maxima is.

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    Donít think floro works so I went back to nylon myself and midge problem is no more


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wee Jimmy View Post
    Like I said Al,it’s a bit of an eye opener.Ive got some Maxima ultra green in 6lb and 3lb. The 6lb has a stated diameter of 0.22mm,it’s actually 0.26mm.The 3lb says 0.15mm on the label but measures at 0.19mm. The pre stretched nylon that I’ve been using for years for all of my dry fly fishing is also guilty of claiming that it’s thinner than it actually is.....though not as wide of the mark as the maxima is.
    My 6lb Ultragreen measures 0.26mm and my 3lb Ultragreen measures 0.175mm but does it really matter? I've found Maxima to be the most reliable tippet material I've ever used and I recall last season my mate was catching on buzzers just a foot or so down on a New Zealand style set up using 8lb Ultragreen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n Fishy View Post

    There is the possibility that pre-stretched fluorocarbons simply suffer the same lower shock-resistance from which pre-stretched nylons suffer? Maybe?
    If you look at the asso fluoro in the skb website there's a standard and high stretch version. That tallies with the link i provided above about homo and copoly properties.

    Seaguar talk about their double structure, which would indicate a block copolymer homopolymer core with copoly outer (or the other way round).

    With regard prestretch from what vids i've seen on tinternet, all lines are stretched as part of manufacture, even the most basic.

    The young's modulus of bulk nylon is nowhere near high enough to get anywhere close to any line test so stretch and crystal alignment and ordering are implicitly required.

    Given that manufacturers vary from coy to ambiguous to meaningless the only way to get to the bottom of it would be to do your testing above and throw in some x-ray crystallography and mass spectrometer chemical analysis.

    If i ever have a spare million quid i might set up a lab in my shed.. until that lottery win comes in i'll just have to keep guessing.

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    I used to see fluorocarbon as a alternative to mono, now I see it as a tool for the job of getting your flies down deeper/quicker.

    Earlier in the season i was fishing a foam daddy and noticed the fluro taper was pulling it under, that's when the penny dropped about fluorocarbon,s benefits.
    Al

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Ruffe View Post
    My 6lb Ultragreen measures 0.26mm and my 3lb Ultragreen measures 0.175mm but does it really matter? I've found Maxima to be the most reliable tippet material I've ever used and I recall last season my mate was catching on buzzers just a foot or so down on a New Zealand style set up using 8lb Ultragreen!
    I know we are never going to agree on this Tommy but yes I believe there are occasions when it matters a lot.Not always of course but certainly often enough to tell me that it’s a smart move to be aware of it. Ive seen it make all the difference on countless occasions.

    If trout are never put off by leader thickness then why are we not all using 20lb nylon.....? Sometimes it’s more about the fish we are “not” catching than the daft ones that we are.

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    I use maxima 'cos that's what the local shops have stocked for my 40 years of fishing. I got some free Fluorocarbon stuff with an order online once. It was pish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gegg View Post
    I use maxima 'cos that's what the local shops have stocked for my 40 years of fishing. I got some free Fluorocarbon stuff with an order online once. It was pish...
    Now, who can argue with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gegg View Post
    I use maxima 'cos that's what the local shops have stocked for my 40 years of fishing. I got some free Fluorocarbon stuff with an order online once. It was pish...
    Ha Ha.what did you expect for nothing.

    Jim
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