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  1. #71
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    Default Re: Single-hand Spey casting?

    Quote Originally Posted by jawz View Post
    Hi guys,

    I think ohanzee is talking about his cast:
    Sexyloops: Fly Casting PoD series
    It's a variation of single spey/jump roll which is sometimes also referred to as the snap z. Which is confusing because one variation of the snap t is also called that and it's a totally different cast. Other name that I've heard for this variation is the snap lift single spey. As you can see it's a kiss and go type of cast and that pic series really shows nicely how the change of direction with the snap could be used to dry a dry fly.

    Uses for that cast would besides the dry fly thing are:
    -large angle changes easier than regular single spey
    -lifting very large amounts of line
    -distance as it gives a really dynamic V shaped D-loop
    No no no no no! Look at the pictures , there is more rip and disturbance on the lift off that a 28 gram Abu Toby makes on landing! It is no use saying it is nowhere near the fish, ripping the line out like that makes a hell of a noise and would spook every fish for miles around. There are also a pretty big splash later on towards the end of the sequence, drown that dry fly!

    It is yet another cast for an overgrown forum not a cast for an overgrown stream.
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    Default Re: Single-hand Spey casting?

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmiddlepoint View Post
    No no no no no! Look at the pictures , there is more rip and disturbance on the lift off that a 28 gram Abu Toby makes on landing! It is no use saying it is nowhere near the fish, ripping the line out like that makes a hell of a noise and would spook every fish for miles around. There are also a pretty big splash later on towards the end of the sequence, drown that dry fly!

    It is yet another cast for an overgrown forum not a cast for an overgrown stream.
    Glad someone else agrees with me.....

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    Default Re: Single-hand Spey casting?

    plus one!!

    Distance over delicacy methinks.
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    Default Re: Single-hand Spey casting?

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmiddlepoint View Post
    No no no no no! Look at the pictures , there is more rip and disturbance on the lift off that a 28 gram Abu Toby makes on landing! It is no use saying it is nowhere near the fish, ripping the line out like that makes a hell of a noise and would spook every fish for miles around. There are also a pretty big splash later on towards the end of the sequence, drown that dry fly!

    It is yet another cast for an overgrown forum not a cast for an overgrown stream.
    The pics are obviously taken from a slow motion video with bad resolution and a harsh back light. That makes the spray seem way worse than it probably is in reality. But even if the guy was trashing the living sh*t out of that water that's not really the point here.

    The point was to show a very good cast for situations where you need to spey cast with a dry fly. Or want a large angle change. Or want more distance.

    Any cast, spey or overhead, can be made with just as much stealth as the caster is capable. It's always about the smoothness of the lift. And the lift is exactly the same in any cast.

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    Default Re: Single-hand Spey casting?

    Jeepers! Come a long way from whether to tape the joints or not...
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  6. #76

    Default Re: Single-hand Spey casting?

    Quote Originally Posted by spruce View Post
    Hmm....not sure. You can still get a "white mouse"" with that cast. Admittedly, it's not in the immediate vicinity of the fish/area you are going to fish the fly through but it's still there. In very calm conditions I would take the snake roll any time. By the same token I much prefer the kiss and go casts to the sustained anchor types if at all possible.

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    Default Re: Single-hand Spey casting?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohanzee View Post
    No white mouse because the set up is in the air.
    We can't be talking about the same thing!

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    Default Re: Single-hand Spey casting?

    Quote Originally Posted by jawz View Post
    Hi guys,

    I think ohanzee is talking about his cast:
    Sexyloops: Fly Casting PoD series
    It's a variation of single spey/jump roll which is sometimes also referred to as the snap z. Which is confusing because one variation of the snap t is also called that and it's a totally different cast. Other name that I've heard for this variation is the snap lift single spey. As you can see it's a kiss and go type of cast and that pic series really shows nicely how the change of direction with the snap could be used to dry a dry fly.

    Uses for that cast would besides the dry fly thing are:
    -large angle changes easier than regular single spey
    -lifting very large amounts of line
    -distance as it gives a really dynamic V shaped D-loop
    Basically yes, I think of the snap Z performed as per Guenter Feuerstein, I think he was the originator, and originally performed with a double handed rod, transferred to a single hand rod there is no excuse for ripping lines or splashy anchors, if this is happening its happening on every other cast too, its called clumsy casting just.

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