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  1. #31
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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Powell View Post
    I find the "joy" is in, as Hills put it in 1924:

    "Let us open the gate one more and walk the well-known paths though the shining water meadows and over the plank bridge, across the dark, still carrier and over the sunlit runner, back to the banks of our famous river. We are lucky to be allowed to walk her banks for they are pleasant: and perhaps it is more pleasant still to do so in the company of great men who are gone.

    Hills also had a lot to say about the false myths that have come about regarding the chalkstreams. So:

    "....Reading all this some avoid Hampshire. Do not be concerned, it is much easier than you have been led to believe.....etc"

    There is nothing "pessimistic" in my too attempting to dispel these myths. And doing so is certainly not "tosh".

    Costs? 'Ours' cover the cost of the operation. Profit is not a requirement.

    Tippets

    We all have our personal standard of what is 'good' and they vary so are no kind of 'standard'. So they are not 'scientific' in any shape or form. What is more, we find what we like and then tend to stop looking, which is even more 'UNscientific'.
    Personally I used Drennan Subsurface green for many years, but changed to their 'Supplex' this year due to local unavailabiliy of the Subsurface green, but I have not used it long enough to come to a conclusion (it has not broken so far but has not been heavily stressed either is all I have) and someone here has cast doubt on it.

    As I am always prepared to learn from others (if they are not a lone voice) and so many have recommended Maxima I intend to put the Supplex aside and buy Maxima, which is also locally available. I will see hat happens when the mayfly start.

    As for "sparrows fart" I have always been a summer early riser, and as others have agreed on here one needs less sleep with increasing age. If you don't like that it is hardly our problem
    More misguided ramblings.Some people never learn.Still look on the bright side if this is possible using one black one, one white one and one with a bit of ***** on and enjoy the mayfly hatch and count yourself a very lucky man.

    JP

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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Quote Originally Posted by JCP View Post
    More misguided ramblings.Some people never learn. Still look on the bright side if this is possible using one black one, one white one and one with a bit of ***** on and enjoy the mayfly hatch and count yourself a very lucky man.

    JP
    You put your own words into my 'mouth' and then criticised your own words. Fine by me.

    And opinions other than your own have been known to be valid. I'd take Hills over you anytime.
    Though I pay a lot of attention to 'Col' in Scotland and JohnH.
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    That said, yes, we are lucky. We are near the main chalkstreams and can afford to fish them. Personally I instantly forget money spent in advance (as I do for an annual 'full season' rod) provided it doesn't put me in debt, which it doesn't.
    Last edited by Mark Powell; 16-05-2018 at 10:04 AM.

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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    I use anything which is in my box, pocket, and that I've bought cheaply and if I get a break off (rare as hen's teeth) I pretty much know the line has not snapped but that my knot has failed. Nout to do with the make, material or colour; down to me.
    I'm fortunate to fish for, in the main, wild fish; average weight 6 oz or so, and sometimes up to 1 lb. I can't remember any of these ever snapping my line, and I don't anticipate it ever happening.
    I've experimented a little with tippet diameter, and have been most influenced by the ones I can get out of a tree without leaving a fly dangling enticingly for a curious tiny bird. To that end, I tend to go for a BS of around 3.5 but sometimes 4lbs if I'm likely to end up in a tree. Fluoro, nylon, mono, co-polymer are just words, and as mentioned above, fish cannot read although they outwit me on a ratio of at least 20 - 1.
    Del

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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Powell View Post
    You put your own words into my 'mouth' and then criticised your own words. Fine by me.

    And opinions other than your own have been known to be valid. I'd take Hills over you anytime.
    Though I pay a lot of attention to 'Col' in Scotland and JohnH.
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    That said, yes, we are lucky. We are near the main chalkstreams and can afford to fish them. Personally I instantly forget money spent in advance (as I do for an annual 'full season' rod) provided it doesn't put me in debt, which it doesn't.
    Condescending drivel.

    JP
    Last edited by JCP; 16-05-2018 at 12:06 PM.

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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Though I pay a lot of attention to 'Col' in Scotland and JohnH.
    Flippin' heck, what have I said
    "In wine there is wisdom. In beer there is strength. In water there is bacteria." - German proverb
    JH based near Southampton

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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnH View Post
    Flippin' heck, what have I said
    You live really closeand Col is in Scotland

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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnH View Post
    Flippin' heck, what have I said
    It's as much what you don't say as what you do. No comments such as "condescending drivel" or "misguided ramblings" which are just 'attacks' with no data about him and his 'expertise' to clarify or reinforce his view. Possibly because he may not have any.

    And I am far from the only one who thinks a lot of the fancy stuff said about the southern chalkstreams are total tripe. It's all much simpler that the now frequently derided Halford implied. And to a somewhat lesser extent the same can be said about Kite's 'Nymph Fishing in Practice'.

    If I make a comment about my own experiences, which I am usually careful to state are merely my own, what he calls my "misguided ramblings" are my attempt to explain why I post what I do. An intelligent audience (which this mostly is) is entitled to that.

    As for what you do post, while I might differ on some things, you do usually say where you are coming from. And you mention places with which some of us are familiar.

    As for 'Col' I have had some exchanges from which I have learned something. So I consider them fruitful. Whether he does or not is his business. Col's expertise shines though. The other bloke's just some guy on the internet who doesn't appear to accept that there are views other than his own.
    Last edited by Mark Powell; 16-05-2018 at 02:56 PM.

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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    There seems to be more hot air going on in here than Richard Branson’s balloon. I cant see what any of this has to do with copolymer???



    Love and peace to all and wishing tight lines with with whatever tippet you choose.
    "Time is a stream I go fishing in."

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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Quote Originally Posted by dartmoor navigator View Post
    There seems to be more hot air going on in here than Richard Branson’s balloon. I cant see what any of this has to do with copolymer???



    Love and peace to all and wishing tight lines with with whatever tippet you choose.
    It happened on the last one too. Those who like copolymer seem to have strong views.

    I'm more inclined to delray's far simpler views on his post #33

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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    1. It’s just the internet.

    2. It’s just fishing.

    3. Not everyone has the same experiences...

    I use Hardy copolymer but am sitting in a coffee shop opposite a tackle shop having just bought some Maxima and some Drennan subsurface... I haven’t used those in about 5 years but I’m willing to give them another try based on people’s opinions here.
    "Time is a stream I go fishing in."

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