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  1. #81
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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    I just buy whatever works for me. I don't care what it's made of.

    EG. I personally found that the original Orvis Superstrong was a disaster. So I have not tried the new 'Plus' or any other copolymer and/or 'pre-stretched' nylon. And as for Flouro, I did try the Orvis 'Mirage' but as mostly a dry fly fisherman I found it sinks too fast and so tends to wet the fly when you lift off. So that's the end of that or any other Flouro as far as I am concerned.

    For about the last ten years the 'regular' nylon Drennan 'Subsurface' has worked fine. But this year the two local shops had run out of it. So I bought their 'Supplex' instead. Since I bought it five weeks (and five fishing sessions) ago it has been ok.

    But should I find the 'Subsurface' next time I go into either of the two shops I will go back to it as the 'Supplex' broke at what I thought a low tension when a fly got caught in a tree.

    I see no reason for me to be an unpaid 'product tester' of newer and possibly more expensive stuff
    Last edited by Mark Powell; 30-05-2018 at 01:53 PM.

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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Quote Originally Posted by roger h 10 View Post
    I have been using Orvis Superstrong+ in various breaking strains but mainly 4x (6lb) and have had similar problems on the last 2 occasions that I have been fishing.
    I always tie on a new tippet before fishing however last week on the first take of the day as soon as the fish started to fight the leader broke at the dropper.
    This week I hooked what appeared to be a decent fish with the same result. I tied in another tippet, tied a fly on to it and it broke with the merest of pulls. I have found in the past that Copoly appears to get 'stressed', goes opaque and loses all of its strength.
    I am going to try some of the new Hardy leaders and tippet material to hopefully get over the problem as I hate leaving fish with hooks in them whilst towing yards of leader also.

    Just as an aside I bought a new Hardy Compact line a couple of weeks ago as possibly a cheaper alternative to the Rio Gold's that I normally use. I must say that so far it has performed well and is a nice line to fish with. It excels at loading a rod very quickly especially where there is very limited space.
    Oh well that is a non starter, no one has stock of the 9' 4x Precision leaders including Hardy themselves. I've just bought the last pack of 8lb ones from Garry Evan's.

    Are they that good,or have Hardy's just not ordered enough?

  3. #83

    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Powell View Post
    I just buy whatever works for me. I don't care what it's made of...
    I also buy what works for me. You must have to care what it's made of, though, if you avoid using fluorocarbon for fishing dries, no? I would put it more along the lines of not caring what it's called, as long as you do know what its properties are and therefore what to expect of it. You need to know if it's fluoro or if it's nylon (or some weird hybrid of the two). If it's proper fluoro, you know it's about 70% more dense than water and nylon. If it's standard nylon, you know it's good for towing a car. If it's low-diameter, pre-stretched nylon or fluorocarbon, you know you need to be particularly careful with knots, shocks and abrasion. And so on...

    Col
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    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n Fishy View Post
    I also buy what works for me. You must have to care what it's made of, though, if you avoid using fluorocarbon for fishing dries, no? I would put it more along the lines of not caring what it's called, as long as you do know what its properties are and therefore what to expect of it. You need to know if it's fluoro or if it's nylon (or some weird hybrid of the two). If it's proper fluoro, you know it's about 70% more dense than water and nylon. If it's standard nylon, you know it's good for towing a car. If it's low-diameter, pre-stretched nylon or fluorocarbon, you know you need to be particularly careful with knots, shocks and abrasion. And so on...

    Col
    Yes, I now realise my first comment contradicts my 'Flouro' one. Thank you for your assistance on my path to beatification

    Re knots, yes, I believe I tie them well, but I use spit to lubricate them when not tying them at home, when I use 'Knot Perfect'. As for shocks and abrasion, they happen. Any failings in this area are the line's fault, or does it not happen to the makers testers, if any? It's simpler to just buy something else, like I try to avoid buying cars that need towing

  5. #85

    Default Re: Given up on co-polymer...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Powell View Post
    I try to avoid buying cars that need towing
    Me too! However, sometimes you come to the aid of someone who has made a bad choice...



    Col
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