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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingbat View Post
    didn't hardy do a 5 foot glass rod? An I was of the opinion that the Steffen brothers did very reasonably priced short blanks.

    Whats the rational about a one weight? I was of the opinion that the light-line stuff came up in order to better feel the fish - the whole point of a leader being to taper the point of impact of the fly line further back off the fish (and of course help with presentation) - after that I would have thought its all about rod action - the shorter the rod the more noodle like to load with short line and longer leaders - although If can't imagine a 15 foot leader being of much use in your burn

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    It took an age to finally get the Hardy Aln, and what a disappointment. It cast well enough but it felt dead with a fish-on the end. Anything feisty was a a bit like handlining as it simply collapsed. I bought it off the bay for two hundred with a Hardy flyweight reel with 2wt Orvis line. All were sold off to cover costs and none impressed over cheaper alternatives.

    As for your opinions on rod action and leader length... itís not worth wasting my time. Not being offensive but you arenít showing any knowledge of what you are commenting on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beryl View Post
    It took an age to finally get the Hardy Aln, and what a disappointment. It cast well enough but it felt dead with a fish-on the end. Anything feisty was a a bit like handlining as it simply collapsed. I bought it off the bay for two hundred with a Hardy flyweight reel with 2wt Orvis line. All were sold off to cover costs and none impressed over cheaper alternatives.

    As for your opinions on rod action and leader length... it’s not worth wasting my time. Not being offensive but you aren’t showing any knowledge of what you are commenting on.
    none taken,

    I was toying with buying a Kabuto for a long time until I found a post describing its noodle action as so off-putting I couldn't ignore it, especially since whilst I get on well with a stubby feeling 6' 4#, the mastery of the 7'3" 3# still eludes me. On the former a 12' leader is no problem but for the latter 9' is about the limit

    Oh yea - Gatti do a 5'6" in a 3 weight, in case anybody is interested. They also do a Christmas sale.
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    As the Maxcatch 6’ 1wt with matching line costs less than a fancy line...... Mayhap everyone on a small stream should try one? It’s so ridiculously cheap it makes verbal argument redundant. I think it’s stunning though not quite as good as my Orvis Helios2 of the same length but a 2wt. Ten times the price when bought at a 40% discount... yer joking? No I’m not

    All said and done it been fun trying every rod I could get for my small streams. I’ve a brilliant rod by Normack in a six foot 3/4 wt that I’ve rarely used because it’s too heavy for most of my fish in the main. But there be a monster that I’m having a go for tomorrow. The tippet will be 3lbs and the fly will be a streamer. It’s 13/14 inches with a huge tangle of debris it will dash for and can only be fished for downstream. To be concealed from the fish I’ll be in a position if it takes will be one of a rod pointed directly at it. I’ll just have to keep some line in hand to dampen the take. I thought it had moved. It may have, but was back today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beryl View Post
    Iíll just have to keep some line in hand to dampen the take. I thought it had moved. It may have, but was back today.
    I use a braided leader from Rudi Heger - it has enough give to dampen a hard take - but you won't get it by tomorrow.
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    i cant comment on a #1 as my 30 yards floating rio shooting line should be most likely rated as aftma #0 and my next in line is a #2. Been fushing them both on a #2 rated and a #7 rated rods.
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    Can't imagine that there is not too much wrong with your current outfit to be honest. In addition to all the other advice in this thread I would think that bashing around on a small overgrown stream with a 1 weight graphite is pretty much asking for a breakage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beryl View Post
    It took an age to finally get the Hardy Aln, and what a disappointment. It cast well enough but it felt dead with a fish-on the end.
    Its an interesting comment - what makes the fight fun? I have a sage tcr 10', 7# and the little nippers feel just as exciting on it as any other half decent lower weight rod. I suppose its the transmission of higher frequencies up the rod to the handle that allows that and I wonder what relation that has to the rods casting action.

    I'm also wondering whether a rod+line+fish qualifies as a pulley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogtanian View Post
    Can't imagine that there is not too much wrong with your current outfit to be honest. In addition to all the other advice in this thread I would think that bashing around on a small overgrown stream with a 1 weight graphite is pretty much asking for a breakage.
    Ironically my only breakage was on a Steffen Brothers glass rod. i dont recall any incident, i just came out of the undergrowth with a rather limp tip. i lost three inches that day!
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