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    Default Thoughts on #1 setup

    I'm fishing a small burn regularly now using a Maxcatch #3 7'0'' glass rod and Barrio Smallstream line.
    It is (and will stay) very overgrown and I think a 7ft rod is just about max fishable there.
    Also the trout are very small, mostly 6" and under.

    I was wondering if dropping down to #1 would help with lighter presentation, would #2 be too close to my #3 to make a difference.

    Due to steep sides and a canopy of trees, wind is rarely a problem.
    Fishing dries, spiders and lightweight nymphs.

    Any suggestions for rods and matching lines would be much appreciated.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on #1 setup

    Frankly, compared to what you have got, I really doubt it will make any difference at these line sizes: these are already very light lines.
    And, if it occasionally did, you could probably compensate with a single good fly casting lesson, and hence improved presentation!
    A 3-weight 7ft rod is in my opinion pretty much perfect for small overgrown brooks: just occasionally you might want either to fish a larger fly (hoppers,daddies, or a Wooly Worm-type), or need to bully a fish out: when/if either of these occur, you might be rather glad of the higher line weight/slightly more robust rod.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on #1 setup

    I use a 7ft 3wt for all my small stream fishing and have never really considered 'needing' a lighter weight. With it I can fish a long light leader and thin tippets accordingly. I've no experience of a 1wt line but I do have a 2wt rod I nymph with.

    I'd be interested in hearing from someone who fishes a 1wt to understand any benefits?
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    A well cast three wt line will catch as many as a one weight. You might need a little longer leader, but it’s details...
    Most of my stuff is two wt simply because it is availiable from the main brands without any huge premium nowadays.

    I’d try the Maxcatch 6 foot 1wt I’ve used most of this season. It costs less than three packs of Benson&Hedges and you can get a line for much less than one pack. It’s so silly-cheap I won’t comment on its performance as you can try it almost for free...
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    Quote Originally Posted by beryl View Post
    A well cast three wt line will catch as many as a one weight. You might need a little longer leader, but it’s details...
    Most of my stuff is two wt simply because it is availiable from the main brands without any huge premium nowadays.

    I’d try the Maxcatch 6 foot 1wt I’ve used most of this season. It costs less than three packs of Benson&Hedges and you can get a line for much less than one pack. It’s so silly-cheap I won’t comment on its performance as you can try it almost for free...
    I must admit, I've looked at that. Obviously the minimal cost to try it is tempting but I'm open to all suggestions including just stick with the #3 if that is other people's experience.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on #1 setup

    As others have posted, nothing wrong with 7ft #3. I do have 6ft #2 but not used it yet this season (I did last season on a few occasions). Going up or down a line weight I don't think gives much advantage. However rod length and action can.
    All this light line comes from comp fishing with long rods in order to keep line of the water.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on #1 setup

    I would go with a 10' 8# - You never know when that monster is going to take!


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    p.s. Seriously though, I have never gone down any further than a 3# - Even for small burn brownies, so I am not in a position to advise on anything lower than that.
    Last edited by eddleston123; 14-09-2018 at 07:27 PM.

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    “All this light line comes from comp fishing with long rods in order to keep line of the water.”

    I don’t think so! Look at the ultralight movement in the states; being going on for some time I think...

    As long as you can get the line out, generally you will get a better fight with a lighter rod. I landed a twelve inch plus trout yesterday on the Maxcatch. Best of the year, just in time
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    Default Re: Thoughts on #1 setup

    Quote Originally Posted by beryl View Post
    “All this light line comes from comp fishing with long rods in order to keep line of the water.”

    I don’t think so! Look at the ultralight movement in the states; being going on for some time I think...
    I've seen some videos and articles along those lines from the states where there seems to be a definite following for this ultra light fishing including landing 2lb+ trout on #1
    The fish I'm likely to catch won't trouble very light tackle so I'm thinking about lightest presentation possible.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on #1 setup

    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly face View Post
    As others have posted, nothing wrong with 7ft #3. I do have 6ft #2 but not used it yet this season (I did last season on a few occasions). Going up or down a line weight I don't think gives much advantage. However rod length and action can.
    All this light line comes from comp fishing with long rods in order to keep line of the water.
    That's why I was looking to go from a #3 to #1
    I was advised when starting out not to move one weight at a time as there was not enough difference.
    E.G. Go 1,3,5,7 or 2,4,6,8 etc. unless you really need, or want, to go inbetween. This has served me well so far.
    Long rod not feasible in this case due to the confines of the burn concerned.
    Last edited by morayfisher; 15-09-2018 at 07:11 AM.
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