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    I have to question why is a thumb in the mouth any worse than a hook? Not saying I agree with the way the fish is held....but?
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    Quote Originally Posted by taffy1 View Post
    I have to question why is a thumb in the mouth any worse than a hook? Not saying I agree with the way the fish is held....but?
    It’s just the way Taffy, all that weight at right angles to the thumb, at least a hook is pulling straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongfoot View Post
    interesting question. I'd assumed it was appropriate for a Largemouth or Smallmouth Bass. ...

    And I think it's popular because of sharp gill plates and spiny fins.
    That and because, at least with largemouth, it causes them to go catatonic, and makes it much easier to remove a hook(S) without hurting the fish. For some reason, smallmouth aren't as accomodating in that respect. It also avoids squeezing the fish.

    In the US and Canada, it is, and has long been, the accepted way of handling a black bass without hurting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrtrout View Post
    It’s just the way Taffy, all that weight at right angles to the thumb, at least a hook is pulling straight.
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    Hmmm, not if a fish is trying to turn away though MrT, side strain etc, pulling in opposite direction to what the fish is doing.
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    its the flesh version of the boga grip, i always thought it was to get a clear photo of the fish but it is only suitable for fish of a certain size ie not too big.

    as for whats the difference between a thumb and a hook ? the fish will go with the hook and if the pressure / pain in its mouth gets too much it will turn the way the hook is pulling, the thumb is in its mouth and if the body of the fish isn't being supported that is some weight pressure on the fishes jaw, thats why that hold isn't suitable for larger fish. and if i had my way the boga grip would be banned.

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    Been this way handed down since time immemorial. Bass have spikes everywhere and razor blade edged gill covers.Our saltwater bass are the same.

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    Hi', I agree with Mr Trout on this issue, and can only assume that those who feel it is necessary to hold a fish by its jaw or, even worse, by jamming fingers through its gill plates and into the mouth, have little or no concern for the fish's wellbeing. Re the comparison between holding a fish by a thumb or a hook, a fish in the water is weightless. if it wasn't it wouldn't be able to float. Also, hooks don't usually remove mucus, grubby paws do.
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    PS I see images of pike anglers holding pike aloft by sticking their fingers through the gill rakers from the underside of the lower jaw --- that makes me want to puke --- on the guy holding the fish. That invasive grip on a fish is akin to sticking a handful of skewers into someone's rib cage, as far as I am concerned.
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    I don’t know why it happens this way and have no idea if fish suffer as a result. Personally I’m happy with netting any caught fish and releasing them with as much care as possible.
    However, from watching those bass fishing comps on Sky tv from the USA, the fish are sometimes placed in a “ keeper tank” in the boat and the handling doesn’t appear to harm said fish hours later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jada0406 View Post
    PS I see images of pike anglers holding pike aloft by sticking their fingers through the gill rakers from the underside of the lower jaw --- that makes me want to puke --- on the guy holding the fish. That invasive grip on a fish is akin to sticking a handful of skewers into someone's rib cage, as far as I am concerned.
    Terry.
    You don't hold a pike with fingers through the gill rakes, it's the bony bit of the bottom jaw you hold. It's known as "chinning", easier to do on larger fish. As with any fish, the least handled the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrtrout View Post
    Can someone explain why people handle these fish like this.
    As Redietz says, it's a known and accepted 'thing' with bass species. You hold them so their mouth is wide open. It doesn't mean you are supporting the whole weight of a large fish from its bottom jaw, though some idiots may do that, of course. You are just holding them so their mouth is wide open. If the fish is small enough, you probably can support its weight with the hold on its lower jaw, without injury. When you hold them open-mouthed, they freeze - the way a shark does when you hold it upside down. Might even be something like using a 'twitch' on a horse's lip?

    It works with British perch, too. Then you can unhook them without getting stabbed.

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