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    Default Short Range Casting Into a Breeze

    Most of my fishing is on rain fed rivers, using a variety of upstream techniques, often in fast or pocket water at close range. At times when conditions are otherwise perfect and the fish are in a taking mood I am frustrated by a brisk downstream breeze and just canít get my flies on target. My usual set up is an 8 or 9ft rod and 4wt line, a 9ft tapered leader and tippet to suit the method (so from 3 to 6 ft). Iím thinking of carrying a spare reel loaded with a line cut back to the start of the taper and using a shorter leader to put my fly where it should be.
    Any constructive opinions or advice is very welcome?
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    Default Re: Short Range Casting Into a Breeze

    If it is close range pocket water you are fishing just try reducing the overall leader length to 9ft. At the moment you are using 12 - 15ft which is going to get blown about in a stiff breeze. Having a shorter leader will mean you have a bit more fly line in use which will help overcome the wind. No need to start cutting fly lines or carrying extra reels!


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    Default Re: Short Range Casting Into a Breeze

    If you’re fishing pocket water it’s quite possible to shorten your leader way way down and just keep ‘everything off’ the water except your straight dry fly or the dry Fly of a duo/trio set up.
    When I’m on somewhere like the Upper Tees where wind is often an issue I’ll happily fish a cut back tapered leader and tippet of no more than 5’ overall length.

    If you want to learn how to truly pick pocket water then Fish On are hosting guided days on the Upper Tees later this month and John Tyzack, six times English National rivers champion will be demonstrating exactly how it’s done and as a former beneficiary of that very demo I can’t recommend it highly enough, it’s truly a devastating way to fish that kind of water.
    Check it out at Guiding Flyfishing

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    Default Re: Short Range Casting Into a Breeze

    I agree with all of the above: its the length of your leader that is letting you down, and unlikely much, if anything, else.

    Orvis do 7.5ft tapered leaders which are excellent for this sort of thing: the same taper reduction from butt to tip, but over a much shorter run (especially given the 12-18" point. So the turnover is noticeably better. Leave the line alone, though!

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    Default Re: Short Range Casting Into a Breeze

    I would also suggest shortening your leader and if it's still difficult you could try a cut back taper.
    Do you use fluorocarbon?
    With it being near twice the density/weight it casts much better into the wind.
    Eta
    Maxcatch have 7ft nylon tapers X10 for around £4

    Al
    Last edited by speytime; 15-07-2019 at 11:26 AM. Reason: Tapers

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    Default Re: Short Range Casting Into a Breeze

    Thanks all for the advice chaps. Shorter leaders for this situation it is then, I think in retrospect that I’ve been reluctant to change much other than flies and tippet as I progress through a pool or in adverse conditions. I will for sure be changing leader to suit the situation from now on.
    One of the great things about the forum is the readiness of others to offer sound advice. Thanks again.
    Brendan
    Last edited by jaybeegee; 15-07-2019 at 07:37 PM. Reason: Add a bit.

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    Default Re: Short Range Casting Into a Breeze

    Consider a short 4-5' furled leader too...
    You can keep these on always and just vary the tippet length.
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    Default Re: Short Range Casting Into a Breeze

    Quote Originally Posted by pedros View Post
    Consider a short 4-5' furled leader too...
    You can keep these on always and just vary the tippet length.
    Thanks pedros, just ordered some furlies to try.

    B

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