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    Do canoeists have a legal right to use any river regardless of bank ownership and/or fishing rights? This is assuming that they access and leave the river with permission or from a public place. Yesterday while fishing a clubwater with restricted access I was surprised to meet a couple of kayakers paddling through, and although it wasn't a problem for me at the time ( and they were very considerate ), it could easily be on another day or in another pool.

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    Have read through this lot. River Access for All
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    No they don't. They would like to and some think the do already. They do not want to pay for it though. Whilst fishing I have met some very considerate paddlers and also a few inconsiderate scumbags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaybeegee View Post
    Do canoeists have a legal right to use any river regardless of bank ownership and/or fishing rights? This is assuming that they access and leave the river with permission or from a public place. Yesterday while fishing a clubwater with restricted access I was surprised to meet a couple of kayakers paddling through, and although it wasn't a problem for me at the time ( and they were very considerate ), it could easily be on another day or in another pool.

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    Navigation rights are sometimes the result of an Act of Parliament. The Western Rother Navigation Act 1794 gave rights on payment of a Toll. The Railway and Canal Traffic Act 1888 removed the navigation rights despite objections from the River Arun Catchment Board and a canoe club, on 15 April 1936.

    Your river may also have its navigation defined in law, I would check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by williegunn View Post
    Do you mean Do canoeists in England and Wales ............................ Scotland is a different ball game.
    Thanks Malcolm, I walked into that one. I meant Yorkshire.
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    In England & Wales unless there is a specific existing right of navigation (there aren't many) any access to and use of water without the specific permission of the riparian owner(s) (and landowner(s) if different) is a trespass. So carrying canoes across a field to the river is a trespass, canoeing down the river may be another trespass and getting out and carrying canoes across a field away from the river is another trespass.
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    No they don’t have any rights . But if you do a quick google for something like “ Paddle river Wharfe” , you’ll see that they don’t care either . I’ve had a few of them over the past few years . To be honest some have made very little fuss and minimised disturbance . Some have been militant . My favourite was one of the obnoxious ones , in an inflatable kayak. He came right through my swim , only to ground out a hundred yards later in low water on the flats where BA meets Addingham . He walked back up the ( private ) path to Bolton Bridge with this big rubber boat on his head !

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    I've just taken up canoeing and seen the other side of things and as always things are never quite as the 'other side' often characterises them.

    (cf 'Court Cases' in Wobbly Face's post above)
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    Until a case goes to court and is challenged, so goes to a higher court, then canoeing will continue (illegally in most cases). The CU (canoe Union) encourages members to exercise "Their (supposed)Rights" and use any river at any time. Some Clubs are suggesting having had their river fishing valued now, so if sport is ruined by "mass" canoe trespass or continued disruption, the value can be assessed again, with a view to claiming damages ?
    My local river is too shallow in most places, but we have had them occasionally and I did find a 4 man inflatable canoe dumped 1/2 a mile from the nearest road, no one came back for it, so it was removed some weeks later as part of a "litter" pick.
    Personally I do not have a problem if the canoeists enter into an agreement and pay for their sport, or does this mean I can have free fishing on the Test ! Right to fish ??

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