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Old 30-06-2010, 08:50 PM
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A drogue attached via a single rope/webbing strap needs to be pulled to the boat until you can reach one of the four corner straps which when pulled will collapse it and pull into the boat.
Nope, try what I do. Don't try retrieving a full drogue all day, you'll be knackered in no time! I use a Wychwood drogue (adjusta version, which means you can widen it out or make it narrower, varying the speed of drift - at least thats the theory, but its really too much faffing about so it stays on one setting - in other words, don't bother getting the adjustable version, the standard drogue is fine!). Anyway, back to the point.... just add another chord to one corner of the drogue - not the middle. A quick pull on that from the boat collapses it, no problem, dead easy to pull in then. Chose a different coloured chord so you can easily tell which one to pull to collapse it. I also use a g-clamp to the boat seat to anchor the chords firmly, but I don't tend to let the drogue out very far, so I tie a loop in the main chord and then just hook that over the centre rowlock. Leave the collapsing chord a bit slacker obviously so that the drogue can open out. I don't get too many tangles - they generally sort themselves out if you're careful. Also when setting the drogue out, give a tug on it and check its opened out ok. By having the drogue on a fairly short rope its also quicker to pull it back in.

If you want to angle the drift you can re-position the g-clamp to any desired point on the side of the boat and run the drogue off that, rather than the central rowlock, making the boat run at an angle.
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Old 30-06-2010, 11:49 PM
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If the 4 ropes from the drogue go to a central ring it is not a para. For a para there should be 2 rings each with 2 ropes going to them. Both rings then have their own rope going to the boat, one to the front and one to the back of the boat. When in use, if you pull either rope, that side of the drogue moves towards you and it collapses. That set up will cause less tangles and problems than a extra rope to help collapse it.
I do not think there is any reason why a standard drogue can't be changed to a para by changing the rope arrangement. An extra ring and another bit of cord is all that it would need.
John as i said it has a left and right side that go to a central point
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It,s only lack of knowlage that i,ve not split it into two sides. As you see it,s a para drogue. Jeffr thanks a lot that,s what i was looking to do but originaly thought that a middle cord would have done.
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I do not think there is any reason why a standard drogue can't be changed to a para by changing the rope arrangement. An extra ring and another bit of cord is all that it would need.
Thanks John, I'll give it a go. Cheers
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John as i said it has a left and right side that go to a central point
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It,s only lack of knowlage that i,ve not split it into two sides. As you see it,s a para drogue. Jeffr thanks a lot that,s what i was looking to do but originaly thought that a middle cord would have done.
Thanks again everyone for help/advice
Agree it is a para, the single rope to the boat effectively converts it back to a standard. Rather than attaching another rope to collapse it, I would suggest a rope from each ring to the boat. Less likely to tangle if kept apart at the boat end but could be attached to a single point. Shouldn't need a swivel with a rope on each side.
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Yes JeffR you are absolutely right.It is much easier with a trip rope to retrieve a single lead drogue.I have not done this with mine yet mainly because have my boat partner pull it in as I have to always be on engine duty and he rows like a corixa It is a good ploy as he often goes to sleep later in the day if sport is slow and I can fish how I like The single lead drogue I have came from Steve Parton and is not too bad to retrieve and I quite prefer it when fishing solo but I will get around to a trip rope.I also have a Wychwood Para type but need to change the ropes because the originals tangle especially if you trip it with the boat and leave it in the water when moving up for another drift....

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Is one type better than the other or is it a preference thing. I used to put it on the row lock but have just changed to using a g clamp so i can alter the drift angle. I also intend to put at corner tether on to colapse it. I,d prefer to leave it with one rope but would change to two if it is better, excluding the colapsing benifit. Thanks again Alan
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Is one type better than the other or is it a preference thing. I used to put it on the row lock but have just changed to using a g clamp so i can alter the drift angle. I also intend to put at corner tether on to colapse it. I,d prefer to leave it with one rope but would change to two if it is better, excluding the colapsing benifit. Thanks again Alan
I replaced my standard one with a wychwood para and much prefer it. Easier to adjust drift especially with cleats fitted, easier to collapse, no need for a swivel, no tangles although whilst I edge back and forth with it I don't drive around with it out. Like yours it has the flat material connection at the drogue end which probably reduces the tangle problem whichever way you use it. Suggest as you will have 2 cords anyway, try in both ways and see which suits you best. Use the swivel to attach the rope to the ring at the front of the boat, tie the other end to a drogue ring and attach the g clamp rope to the other drogue ring and its converted to full para.
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I prefer the two anchor points - gives you a bit more stability than one anchor point that can twist the boat around if you have a bit of a blustery or squally wind.

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I replaced my standard one with a wychwood para and much prefer it. Easier to adjust drift especially with cleats fitted, easier to collapse, no need for a swivel, no tangles although whilst I edge back and forth with it I don't drive around with it out. Like yours it has the flat material connection at the drogue end which probably reduces the tangle problem whichever way you use it. Suggest as you will have 2 cords anyway, try in both ways and see which suits you best. Use the swivel to attach the rope to the ring at the front of the boat, tie the other end to a drogue ring and attach the g clamp rope to the other drogue ring and its converted to full para.
I think you have a point about the flat webing i used to use a home made one and the ropes were bad for twisting
Thanks a lot for you,re advice everyone. Alan

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Yes JeffR you are absolutely right.It is much easier with a trip rope to retrieve a single lead drogue.I have not done this with mine yet mainly because have my boat partner pull it in as I have to always be on engine duty and he rows like a corixa It is a good ploy as he often goes to sleep later in the day if sport is slow and I can fish how I like The single lead drogue I have came from Steve Parton and is not too bad to retrieve and I quite prefer it when fishing solo but I will get around to a trip rope.I also have a Wychwood Para type but need to change the ropes because the originals tangle especially if you trip it with the boat and leave it in the water when moving up for another drift....

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Other way round with me, as I'm usually the one on drogue duty, so I soon found an easier way to do it! All I need to do now is find an easy way to pull an anchor up when I'm on anchor duty....

As for para vs standard, I haven't tried a para drogue so can't say which is better, but its pretty easy to change the rope arrangements anyway. I meant to buy a para drogue but they didn't have one in the shop at the time, and i needed one quick, so I had to get a standard one, got on fine with it, haven't changed. I do think the webbing drogue straps type design would help reduce tangles/twists though, so next time I buy one I will get one like that, but probably still set it up with a single centre rope plus trip rope arrangement.
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