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    Default Re: Isreal folau a religious man.

    Quote Originally Posted by aenoon View Post
    He is obviously a devout Christian
    If he is a devout Christian, he should follow the teachings of Christ, and forgive them their sins, and turn the other cheek, and all that stuff, surely?
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    Fortunately Folau doesn't represent Christianity as a whole, it's a broad church and I know a number of Christians who'd find what he said to be unacceptable - in fact our local vicar, not unusually, is gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diawl bach View Post
    ... I know a number of Christians who'd find what he said to be unacceptable - in fact our local vicar, not unusually, is gay.
    I'm always confused by the way you can have a gay Christian vicar, and at the same time you have all the fuss and nonsense with episodes like those Christian cake-shop owners who had the court case because they refused to make a cake for a same-sex wedding????

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrnotherone View Post
    I too think about free speech and I would not agree with making what he said unlawful (providing he wasn't promoting or inciting hatred or violence). However, just as he can express his beliefs, the organisation that employees him can decide they don't want someone working for them who expresses such prejudicial and discriminatory opinions.
    Agreed, provided that such action was an option within his terms and conditions of employment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n Fishy View Post
    I'm always confused by the way you can have a gay Christian vicar, and at the same time you have all the fuss and nonsense with episodes like those Christian cake-shop owners who had the court case because they refused to make a cake for a same-sex wedding????

    Col
    That's a fine example of a broad church encompassing different opinions. It doesn't make sense really but I suppose that's what happens when belief systems evolve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diawl bach View Post
    That's a fine example of a broad church encompassing different opinions. It doesn't make sense really but I suppose that's what happens when belief systems evolve.
    I don't pretend to understand any belief system. They are all a mystery to me.

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    And therein lies the age old problem.
    People choose to believe rubbish that either cannot be proven to be true or else can be proven to be wrong and then try to convince others that this is 'the way' and everyone should follow this belief.

    If you could only enter politics if your were a committed atheist, we'd all be better off.
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    One thing that annoys me is all this bit about us being expected to 'respect' people's religious beliefs. And I think, why? Religions through history have never shown anything but utter contempt - and a whole lot worse - towards atheists. Why should I show them any respect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diawl bach View Post
    That's a fine example of a broad church encompassing different opinions. It doesn't make sense really but I suppose that's what happens when belief systems evolve.
    Becoming broader, or ending in schisms? Isn't members of the same religion having different beliefs how we ended up having 4200 different religions?

    I watched an episode of The Big Question, where a Christian woman was telling them all about how they would go to Hell if they didn't embrace Christ as their Lord, and describing the whole process of going to Hell in great detail. And she was in absolutely no doubt about any of it. Then I watched an episode of the Whitehouse and Mortimer fishing prog, where a female vicar was saying that it was generally recognised these days that there was no Hell or Devil - all made up stuff. (Though interestingly, Heaven was still very real... )

    Then you have Ken Ham and his 'Answers in Genesis' site, denying evolution. But you also have priests discussing evolution with Richard Dawkins...



    Taken to a natural conclusion, you could end up with 7 billion belief systems, each with one member (if you include all the atheists... each with their own non-belief system )?

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